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Fake, fake, fake... riddled with historical inaccuracies


Much of the storyline was based on "The Last Testament of Lucky
Luciano" -- supposedly taken from the "diaries" of Lucky Luciano --
which has been proved to be nothing but fairy tales.

When it was first published, the FBI stated, "This book has no value to
the FBI or anybody for that matter" and "It is unlikely that a mob boss
would keep a diary, and if he did, whoever possessed it would not be
alive to write a book." The Chief of the US Narcotics Bureau in Rome
state, "Martin Gosch (author) is untrustworthy, a liar and an
opportunist." Yet Hollywood (and many "experts") still use this book as
a basis for research and entertainment.

****Just a few facts from episode one: -The characters featured in the
show did NOT use Tommy Guns. In fact, Tommy Guns were extremely rare in
NYC.

-Luciano DID NOT create the Five Families -- Salvatore Maranzano did.

-Luciano, Lansky and Siegel did not meet Frank Costello and Masseria
like shown in the episode.

-Luciano did not start working for Masseria like shown in the episode.

-Rocco Valenti was gunned down two days after the failed hit attempt on
Masseria -- not "weeks later." And the hit was an ambush by eight
gunman in front of John's Restaurant on 12th Street as Valenti showed
up with two bodyguards to a sit down called by Masseria. A seven year
old girl and a street sweeper were shot in the crossfire. Nothing like
in the series. Plus there is no proof that Luciano pulled the trigger
or was even present.

-Luciano, a Sicilian, can not pronounce the word "Consigliere"? (The
"G" is silent.) -Half of the "experts" interviewed could not even
pronounce "Luciano" correctly. (It's Lu-CHI-ano")

These are just a FEW of the many inaccurate things in the first 30 minutes alone of the first episode -- Don't expect it to get any better from here.



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Those "experts" also pronounced Genovese wrong.




Man this party is like an orgy at a campsite......its ***king in tents.

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Ha. I didn't even make it that far. I bailed before Vito was introduced.

This show had so much potential to tell an accurate story. Too bad most viewers will believe it to be true, which is probably why it has an 8/10 rating on IMDB.


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I'm no expert on the subject so I can't comment on any for your stated inaccuracies but I have to ask if you are here to comment on the show or just sell your walking tour. How about you take your advertisements elsewhere? This is not the place for that crap.

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Did you learn anything from the original post? If so I did my job. If not, you deserve the TV show.



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Like I said I am no expert on the subject so I can't comment of the validity of your statements. However, advertising in the message boards is a clear violation of IMDB's terms of service. What I have learned though is that I have no interest in taking any kind of tour with your organization if this is how it conducts it's business.

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Maybe you're right, maybe this miniseries is bunk. Maybe you're wrong. Either way, I'd like to point out for all to see that all of your activity on IMDb reeks of self-promotion.

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So seven paragraphs of debunking and one line linking to a tour "reeks" of self-promotion?

I want people to know the facts and not be fooled by all these ridiculous movies.

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No one here would take issue with your comments if you didn't have the link to a paid tour at the end of each comment. The fact that your account name is Mafia-Walking-Tour makes it pretty clear you are here for promotional purposes.

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Yes, it does reek of self-promotion.

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The OP lost any and all credibility when he said Luciano didn't create the commission. LMFAO!!

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He's actually completely correct about that. Salvatore Maranzano created the 5 families and the structure of the commission. When he was killed Luciano took over, dropped the capo tutti capo title and slightly tweaked the system. But Salvatore Maranzano did in fact create it, not Luciano.

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"Luciano DID NOT create the Five Families -- Salvatore Maranzano did."

Eh? Kinda but not in the form that most people think of when they think about the Five Families. Marantzano did start organizing the various gangs into families but he made it very clear that he was the boss of all bosses. He ruled with an iron fist and that got him killed. Luciano created the Five Families (7 at the time) /Commission system from those beginnings but changed the entire system, morphing it into the system that people know about now.

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Oh well but Lucky did help the five families.



and was a important factor in the mob

Look like Tarzan talk like Jane! HAHA

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I really don't think the OP watched more then the 1st episode.

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