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The Grinder Cancelled and the Future of Broadcast TV


Like many here on the board, my wife and I were extremely disappointed to learn that The Grinder was cancelled. Yes, it was never a ratings darling, but I thought the show had some very strong writing and excellent acting from the cast. My fear that it was a one trick pony (TV actor leaves L.A. to move back to Boise and work for the family business) were alleviated by the strong second half of the year where the story expanded to include the other characters and made it less reliant on the strange man in a strange land gimmick.

However, I think this is a direction broadcast TV is going (and has been going). Shows that are edgy, creative and smart are going to be given less and less opportunity on "the Big 4." Audiences are shrinking due to more people streaming TV or watching cable/premium TV. The result is an audience that, honestly, is older and less educated. I'm sure that the ratings for Grinder, as small as they were, didn't honestly reflect the majority of viewers who watched the show either on DVR or streamed it. Factoring in those numbers, I'm sure the show would have a higher viewership number than archaic standard TV ratings suggest.

Broadcast TV is going in the same direction as "mainstream blockbuster" movies. They are getting less and less creative and more and more playing it safe. Most main movies now are superhero franchises, reboots, and sequels, very few that really get me interested in spending $10+ dollars at the theater. The last movie I saw at the theater was the new Star Wars, and even that disappointed me a bit because it was so rehashed and wink wink to the older films. I now only go to the theater a handful of times to see usually independent or less mainstream films that still have some quality to them. Nothing else from Hollywood truly interests me, like broadcast TV these days. Sure, there are still some great programs on broadcast. ABC, for example, has three excellent sitcoms that families can watch, but that aren't overly cheesy or bland. Modern Family, while aging, still has some excellent episodes, and I like both Fresh Off the Boat and The Goldbergs. Fox has a couple good shows still on with Brooklyn Nine Nine and Last man on Earth. Other than that, it's a crapshoot. Most of broadcast TV is laugh track sitcoms, predictable procedurals, and realty competition shows. The one bright spot is NFL and college football, which still bring in huge ratings. I mean, Last Man Standing and Undatable get renewals over other shows.

The good programming is now on cable and streaming. Broadcast TV needs to figure out the future because right now it's a purgatory of bland crap and the ratings are only going down.

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This 58/59 yr old couple dropped DirectTV a few years ago to watch shows on an Apple TV box running Netflix and commercial free Hulu. I got so fed up with the dozens of channels of nothing and my fav shows being cancelled. Yes they better figure it out fast that a lot of us are doing this.

Star Wars VII was the last movie we saw at the theater also, but then "in theaters" IS how SW is supposed to be seen. I remember when Lucas was ready to re-release the "enhanced" originals in theaters to finance the prequels, they had a preview at one movie where the whole screen was black accept for a small 4:3 ratio square in the center playing Episode IV. The voiceover says, is this how you remember SW? Then boom full screen SW. That was pretty funny to us who stood in line in 77.

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Ratings factor in DVR watchers now. Jus' sayin'

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I have a friend who got so tired of shows being cancelled after one season, that he now only watches shows that have been renewed at least once. He'll catch the first season on Hulu or Netflix and pick up watching them live with the second season.

Another friend got so tired of cancelled shows that he only watches them on Netflix, Hulu and other streaming services. I'm thinking about doing this myself, because I'm tired of investing myself into new shows, only to have them cancelled after the first season. I prefer to watch them when they're new, but I already have Netflix, Hulu and all the other streaming services, so I'm not sure why I even bother with live network television sitcoms anymore.

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I was afraid of this.

I always enjoyed it but it got so much better when it stopped the Stu vs. Dean thing and they started working together. I think a lot of people (the network included) didn't understand what The Grinder was doing. It was poking fun and poking holes in the whole TV and entertainment process. So many veiled comments and commentary on TV and media in this show.

This show was basically doing what Seinfeld did. If the show within a show Grinder was an actual TV show, it'd probably be a hit because it's "serious TV." But since it's making fun of those shows and the overacting that goes on, it's seen as silly.

The thing about Seinfeld is that NBC has the reputation for nurturing quality shows along until it finds an audience. Seinfeld was in its fourth season before it found its audience. However, Fox has the opposite reputation. Fox cancels shows if they aren't hits right off the bat and they never give those shows a chance to get their feet under them, so to speak.

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I'm upset as well. About 5 shows I have been currently watching are canceled as of now. I also enjoyed 'Grandfathered'. These comedies are refreshing and are reminiscent of 90s/00s comedy shows that have long gone. I love 'New Girl' and 'Brooklyn 99' also but 'The Grinder' and 'Grandfathered' had such a good family dynamic and wasn't too tongue in cheek. I miss shows like this!

I think it is hard for the half-hour comedy to find its audience now and with Ad revenues going down I can see why networks need to make certain changes.

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This is probably the first time I was this upset about a show cancellation since I was 13 years old in 1974, and they cancelled "Sons and Daughters"

Too bad this show wasn't on The CW. They keep anything that has quality or will win awards, regardless of the ratings. Example: Very few have watched, "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend," but it's coming back for a second season. I love that show.

But when I discovered "The Grinder," I loved that too, and it will be in my "Best 10" TV shows of the year, even though it is being cancelled.

I will say that the one exception to good programming on broadcast television has been the past two seasons of American Crime. A critic said it is like watching a cable show on broadcast TV, and I would say that's pretty accurate.

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Last man standing is good and has more than double the ratings as the grinder. I can't imagine why no one watched the grinder or stick with it at least.

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I think people were getting annoyed with the plot being based around Stu being the punching bag. I know I hated the therapist arc, with everyone treating him like crap. It got really annoying and really old really fast.

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