Emmy nods for Joan Allen and Andrew McCarthy?
I really hope they are being considered! Definitely the two best performances on the show.
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There was definitely some good acting on the show, particularly (in my opinion) Andrew McCarthy. Hopefully even just an Emmy consideration for any actor on the show would draw the show more attention and a larger fanbase, possibly even getting it revived.
shareAndrew McCarthy definitely stood out! It would be great to see him recognized for it. But I'm not really familiar with how the Emmys work. Do shows that have already been canceled ever get nominated for anything?
shareDo shows that have already been canceled ever get nominated for anything?
ETA: This is just regarding Emmy Awards. Screen Actors Guild and HFPA are each completely different beasts
Not usually. Shows either have to have critical/industry buzz or good enough ratings that there is a decent sized audience. So many drama nominations lately have gone to cable shows and PBS (they always rack up a bunch of nominations - look for Downton Abbey to be thick in the mix for the final season). Network drama gets shorted in the process.
The people on the nominating committees aren't much different than the viewing public. If there wasn't much of an audience (or critical buzz and there wasn't) for the show, the DVDs submitted will likely go to the bottom of the viewing pile and may or may not get watched. This is Joan's first foray into episodic TV as the main star, but maybe she has some fans in the TV Academy. I could watch her do just about anything, I think she's always excellent. If she gets nominated, she absolutely should submit the finale as her FYC episode.
Andrew I really don't know about. He's done a bit of TV, but has never been nominated before. The show's ratings/lack of buzz probably won't help him much.
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Thanks for the info. It's a shame, but perfectly understandable...
shareDo they have to submit a single episode when it comes to acting?
shareDo they have to submit a single episode when it comes to acting?
Rules change every year, so I can't guarantee this is the most current, but in the Lead Categories for Drama/Comedy series, yes they at least used to have to pick one episode to submit if they are nominated (they don't need to do it unless they are nominated). I think the same is true for Supporting categories. I'm not certain without checking. Guest actors, should they be nominated, have to submit a compilation DVD of all of their scenes from the season (or that's how it used to work a couple years back). The series submits 5 or 6 episodes (I don't remember which) to be considered for the Drama/Comedy series - and every show that wants to be considered for a Series nomination has to do this.
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It seems to be a difficult issue to wrangle. Few great performances can shine outside the context, so single episodes will favour the shriller output, but when allowing to add the context (and the time necessary to watch it), the performances of the less popular shows will get neglected.
I have no idea which Hank episode I would send in, as the intriguing part of the performance is the subtile shift which also is coherent with what the audience learns about him. Probably the cake episode you hate so much
Icalee that was a very good precise description of the nomination process. To add to that people have to understand that people nominate within their own profession; e.g., actors nominate actors, directors nominate directors, and so on. But there is another element that is behind the scenes, the politics of the nominating process.
Networks and studios are the ones that drive that nominating process. If they want one of their actors nominated they will do everything they can to make sure that the person is nominated and their show is heavily being noticed in the trade magazines (or even if the tabloids, if played right). The goal is to keep their actor out in the public eye and to have a reputable critic praise them for their work. A classic example is Mariska Hargitay and the number of times she was nominated. Were her performances any greater than anyone else? No, but she is the darling of NBC and Dick Wolf Productions.
Shows are the same way in that networks will make sure that their show is heavily publicized and will advertise them as 'Critically Acclaimed' to keep them in the minds of not only the viewing public, but also members of the Academy. Unfortunately, when it comes to The Family, ABC has neither adequately advertised the show, nor have they made sure the show received media attention. Has anyone from the cast been on a late night show?
Part of the problem is that there are over 370 scripted shows on network and cable television. That means a lot of people are going to be left out in the cold. Even the fact that they boil everything down to 6 nominees, makes it even more competitive and political.
Even though Joan and Andrew, and even Liam turned out incredible performances, they won't be recognized by the Academy because of ABC being a neglectful parent. I am hoping that they receive recognition elsewhere, but since the show has been cancelled it is doubtful.
Not only do shows occasionally get Emmy nods after cancellation, some even win. The difference however is that these shows are ALL critically acclaimed, and not critically panned, like this show. The reason that they were all cancelled was purely because of low ratings and not because the show was a complete mess.
http://uproxx.com/tv/the-best-single-season-shows-to-receive-emmy-nominations-after-they-were-canceled/
For example there's still hope/buzz that Timothy Olyphant will get an Emmy nod for his performance on The Grinder (he was so hilarious) which Fox canceled despite consistently strong critical reviews. He won a Critics' Choice Award already for the role. I think Andrew McCarthy did the best he could with the material, but the material was just so bad, there is no way he will be nominated considering the competition of great actors working with great writing.
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Yes, they do. I recall a long time ago that an actress, Dana Delany, actually won her 2nd Emmy for the cancelled series China Beach after the series had been off the air for at least a year. I think they did a special mini-arc of episodes to wrap up the show after it had been cancelled. Back then, showrunners used to actually care about their fans!
shareAgreed, but I doubt they get nods. Then again, I'm no expert!
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