Apple Snobs

If it weren't for Jobs, we'd all still be typing cryptic commands on a black screen with green letters. He was a visionary, a great thinker with roots in '60s counterculture who pushed boundaries instead of merely building machines. Gates and the Windows world, by contrast, merely reverse-engineered his ideas, put nut A on bolt B, and raked in the dough. Thank God Jobs had his second act at Apple and was vindicated as the genius he was; had he not, history would say Gates invented the computer, mouse, graphical user interface, Internet, sliced bread, etc. What a travesty that would be.

Microsoft and Intel had a vested interest in the status quo, which in the '80s was DOS on an IBM PC, complete with cryptic commands on a black screen. That was a "real" computer to most business and science nerds. Microsoft and Intel had a monopoly on that market, and hence had a vested interest in killing anything that could threaten the monopoly. Jobs was the only legitimate threat to the monopoly, and what a threat he was! Thanks to him, every computer sold over the past 20 years (especially the Windows knockoffs) has essentially been a Mac. Who cares if he had some flaws and acted like an a-hole sometimes? What great genius doesn't?

Gates didn't "change the world" either. And you're fairly naive if you don't think he did his fair share of "ripping off" and back stabbing. Donating and getting a tax write off for doing so (Gates/Microsoft) doesn't make Gates a saint. It makes him a crafty businessman who was great at lowering his tax liability.

Other people helped Jobs change things in the computer industry..... like the guy who created SoundJam back in the late 90's. Apple bought it, and it later became iTunes. You would know this if you were an adult around 2000.

Job's demanded an MP3 player be created, and another engineer at Apple created the iPod, which held 1,000 songs. At the time that was more than most MP3 players could hold (30 to 50 was typical). Neither Job's nor Gates created such a thing, but Job's knew it could be done at some point and he had someone do the work to help his idea become a reality. You would probably know this if you were at least 10 in 1996.

Jobs DID invent the iPhone when the plans for a tablet changed. Went a little wayward. However you want to put it. Before this the world didn't really have a phone with a multi-touch interface. Before this the "best" you could do was a Blackberry. Still nothing you could really "touch". You would know this if you weren't a millennial that grew up playing games on your mom's iPhone 3G.

I do not idolize Jobs. I see how terrible he was with people. That does not take away or cancel out what he did in the computer industry. You watch one documentary (if you even watched it) and think you know everything because you're 16 years old.

Leave the computer talk about Job's and Gates to people who ACTUALLY remember Gates kissing Job's and Apple's a$$ in the early 80's, just before he double crossed Jobs.


"God made man. Then he rested. And on the 8th day, God created George O'Brien."

I am not a fan of either of them, there are people behind the scene who worked their ass off to make these products.

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lol so true. I grew up in a place in the Bay Area FULL of Mac Hipster types omggg they are sooo stuck up. And why have pride over your computer? That seems so lame to me being all devoted to some company an having a bunch of pride over a freaking consumer electronic product LOL.. I mean these apple people think they are all unique snowflakes but they are all getting down and worshipping some GIANT consumer electronics company lol!!!!!!! And its true they always saying *beep* like "I never get viruses".. lol at that! I've been using basically the same laptop for like 5 years now and I do all kinda dumb *beep* on it .. look at porn or whatever and STILL I don't even have viruses.. And I have a desktop I've had for freaking 9 years now and its still running fine although I've done a couple upgrades. And its funny I think I bought the laptop for like 300 dollars and the desktop was like 400 or something.. you couldn't even get a mac for both of those combined I don't think.

I don't know why everyone looks up to Steve Jobs .. I mean all he was was an a hole businessman.. I mean I think Steve Wozniak is way cooler than jobs. Wozniak is the real artist. Sure Jobs had "vision" or whatever and he was good at marketing and that kinda stuff.. a businessman basically.. But all his products were all created by his engineers but for some reason everyone is only ever talking about Jobs as if hes some great god Also Jobs just totally reminds me of the people where I grew up .. all ex hippies who got rich in silicon valley..etc and they walk around in their jeans and birkenstocks pretending they are still casual hippie counter culture types while meanwhile they are living in huge rediculous mansions and driving porsches and screwing eachother and making more rediculous stuck up rich kids LOL. yuck.

I agree 100% to me a computer is just an appliance, no different than a toaster or a microwave oven.A good example of the attitude of apple is a few G4 I got from a friend who is a massive mac-head.no right click, CD eject is on the keyboard only two USB's at a time when most computers had a half a dozen and one has to be used for the keyboard/mouse, no scroll when (windows had scroll wheel mouse back in windows 98!)headphone output on the back,two dont even have a mic input!and practically no freeware.yes its a beautiful piece of equipment but thats all its good for.the lord king god jobs creates what he wants and its up to the mindless followers to adjust there needs to the computer not the other way around. no im no fanboy of windows and after 20 years they still cant get their stupid OS to work right but the good so far out weight .