This show has its share of irresponsible sex, as do most Hollywood productions. However, this one went too far with the episode: The Benefactor.
In the course of this episode we find out that the Assassin was having sex with both Sophie and her brother. Then we hear a conversation between Ben and the Benefactor in which they talk about having sex with the same woman at the same time. I expected better out of Peter Krause. Move to HBO!
you're quite the prude.
shareIs "prude" the moniker given to someone with standards and whom wishes to take the moral high ground? If so, then, yes, I am.
shareUh, ignore the haters sweetie.
I agree about the lesbian assassin doing both the brother and sister was disgusting.
BTW heads up, don't watch another ABC show The Family. A female reporter does the same with the brother and sister on that show too.
Maybe it's just an ABC thing? Either way, yuck.
Happiness must be earned.
WHY does it have to be????? Prude????....or let roll. Move on....it ok. We all can say this is ok or not. I saw this post and first was like prude.....but why is that a bad thing......it's ok as it is for people being indifferent, as it's is for being turn on.....it's all ok. WHY do we all have to be the same.....can't we kind of just say.....what ever and move on?
shareIs "prude" the moniker given to someone with standards and whom wishes to take the moral high ground? If so, then, yes, I am.
Funny how those who have standards are accused of being intolerant when those whose morality knows no boundaries call everyone who doesn't accept their beliefs "intolerant." Take a look at your views and how you see people who disagree with you and you might just recognize a little of this intolerance in yourself. I'm sure you'll reply as there is no end to this debate.
shareYou have every right to stop watching the show, but your action of posting here about your decision to stop watching because it's "discusting" shows that you have some other agenda. Most people who don't prefer a show simply stop watching and move on.
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Whether she has an agenda or not, as a potential viewer of the series she presented information that was not otherwise forthcoming ... is not that useful and worthwhile? To marginalize her as a person in order to dismiss her input as being neither useful and worthwhile speaks more to you having an agenda. Good luck with that.
shareGreat reply!
shareI love it how people like you have "standards" but never learned any manners. Everyone else must live by your standards, otherwise, they're "disgusting."
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It's time you learned that manners count for more than standards. standards are unique to the individual, but manners are manners and calling people names is always rude.
P.S. calling someone disgusting is always calling someone names; calling someone a prude never is, as prudery, as you pointed out, it in the eye of the beholder.
Take a chill pill Jey. She never said you were disgusting.
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P.S. calling someone disgusting is always calling someone names; calling someone a prude never is, as prudery, as you pointed out, it in the eye of the beholder.
Thecrafts-66710, I picture you as a little old maid, sitting in a back room with a dog and a parrot. Correct?
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You're judging people by your standards, to others it's not immoral, and forcing your standards on someone else sure does come across as intolerant.
sharecool answer graynote.
ox! where is thy yoke?
"Moral highground"? Looks like you are sitting on a high horse but I am not sure if morals are anywhere near it.
What exactly is the moral position when it comes to consenting adults having sex? Why is any form of consensual sex between adults immoral?
As I said, "High horse", yes. "High ground", no.
Oh come on PK, don't be disingenuous.
She's sleeping with two siblings...that's nasty. Not to mention gross.
An act can be both consensual and also immoral but you're smart, so you already know that.
Happiness must be earned.
Nasty? Sure. Gross? You bet. But immoral?
Those terms are not even related (yes, that was intentional). I mean there are a lot of sexual things that are nasty, gross and that I would not do but as long as it is between consenting adults and nobody gets hurt, who am I to judge?
I watched "Billions" this season. I don't know if you have seen it. One of the characters is into BDSM and the show opens with a scene of his wife burning him with cigarettes and then pissing on him. The depiction of sex in that show was some of the most disgusting crap I have ever seen. I fast forwarded through them all, I did not want to see it and if I get to be 1000 years old, there still will never be a time for me to watch something like that. But nothing about it is immoral.
I agree with the OP that the sexual behavior of basically all the characters on this show is disgusting. But in terms of "immoral"...I think cheating on your partner, for example, is immoral. So in my book Alice and Ben's sexual activities would be immoral while Ben and Rys double teaming some girl wouldn't.
I think cheating on your partner, for example, is immoral.
Yes, that she's sleeping with two siblings is gross. So is the fact that she's an assassin. But that's okay with you?
The criminals being portrayed as bad people is somehow a surprise to you?
All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.
So is the fact that she's an assassin.
I'll take the utter avoidance of the point and the question as ceding my point.
We've seen a number of killers on this show, but hey, that's fine. Murder's all good with you, right?
All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.
So no more sex scenes in Bond movies, right? Because, otherwise, James Bond would just be a prostitute. What a double standard. Men can love 'em and leave 'em and we think that's cool. Women, however, are prostitutes. *massive eyeroll*
Felicity came to get the money owed and possibly kill them. They can't pay if they're dead, right? Ben and Margot came up with some song-and-dance which Felicity brought to Rhys. He had to be the one to call off the hit, at least for the time being. Felicity having sex with Rhys (even before she came to collect) and with Margot had nothing to do with her job.
"whom wishes"? Ignorant as well as prudish.
sharelmao this thread was awesome
"whom wishes"? hmm... nope. But good effort on trying to sound sophisticated.
I liked the scene with the Benefactor and Ben discussing how it used to be then and how it is now. (and "then" included the "having sex with the same woman at the same time"). It clearly showed how very far Ben has already come in his struggle to find "maturity". Peter Krause himself in an interview said one of the things he liked about the character of Ben was his "fluidity", an evolving changing character, some of this in front of our eyes and obviously some of that has happened already.
shareLolol you expected better out of Peter Krause and want him to move to HBO because you don't approve of his character's sexcapades?? Don't ever watch Six Feet Under then. You'll need to be hospitalized.
shareTo the OP,
I have no idea why people get so upset about these things. I know some are bothered by lesbian/gay characters or storylines because it goes against their religious beliefs, or how they were raised, but to call this disgusting is laugh out loud funny to me. This is a network show, so they have a whole list of rules they must adhere to when it comes to content. They don't have the freedom that some cable channels do, and shows like Sons of Anarchy, Ray Donovan, Game of Thrones, etc. are fine examples of those relaxed content rules. But to say this show is "disgusting" is a wee bit over the top. There was no nudity, no graphic sex scenes where one of the women pulled out a strap-on and went to town on the other, nothing like that at all. As for sleeping with both siblings, what's the big deal? It wasn't at the same time, so it's not like it was an incest-filled threesome. I've slept, separately, with two sisters. Does that mean I'm an evil person? I just think I'm lucky.
Just because you are prudish, or indoctrinated by a religious text delivered by a stranger you call father, doesn't mean shows should be cancelled. Despite what you may think, you and your opinion mean nothing in the grand scene that is television. If something offends you, change the channel. It's just that simple. You have freedom of choice, so use it. Stop trying to dictate your beliefs and force them onto others. As I said, your opinion means nothing. The only thing that matters to the networks are ratings and ad revenues. If it bothers you THAT much, start a petition to have the network yank the show off the air. I'm sure every member of the Westboro Baptist Church would line up for a chance to sign it.
"L'enfer, c'est les autres"
Apparently, opinions are not welcome on this forum; unless they match up with one's own personal ideas. Funny how when someone disagrees with another they are prudish or intolerant. Lesson learned here: don't post opinions unless you don't mind getting personally attacked. This is pointless. Forget the whole thing.
As another member posted:
Peace (last words, I wish you all well).
To be fair, when it comes to sexuality, when people take issue with it, it usually comes down to religion or being prudish most of the time. You suggested they take it to HBO. Had you simply said you thought it was too much for network tv and should be left to cable channels, I don't think most people would have taken issue with it. It was when you labelled things as "disgusting" that people were bothered. If it's not your thing, that's cool. Just don't pass judgement on those who think it's completely normal.
As for giving your opinion, everybody is able to post their opinion on here, and people are allowed to disagree with each other. It's how discussions/debates are started.
"L'enfer, c'est les autres"
This got ugly really fast.
There is nothing wrong with being a prude just as there is nothing wrong with being kinky. No one should dictate how people should have sex nor should people be scolded for their views on sex.
We are all individuals. Different things turn us on and get us going and that's ok. Opinions should be allowed to be shared and respected even if we disagree.
Ugly how? Seems like a bunch of reasonable people trying to explain to someone else why hyperbole isn't the most useful form of debate. At no point (maybe i missed it, i'm a skimmer) did anything seem nasty or personal.
shareHey coco, you're right, there is nothing wrong with any kind of opinion but the OP is not just being a prude, he/she is trying to dictate his/her opinion on tv shows. It's one thing to stop watching a show because it's not up to your 50ies moral standards but it's another to protest about it in public as if the show had to conform to your views.
The OP is not sharing an opinion, he/she is ranting.
Get help.
Your issue is that the murdering cartel has loose sexual mores. Really? That means more to you then that they kill people, kidnap them, take people's life savings?
Perhaps if you understood that these are the bad guys and presented as such, you'd understand why they're being portrayed as amoral.
All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.
Perhaps if you understood that these are the bad guys and presented as such, you'd understand why they're being portrayed as amoral.
Which has what to do with you being okay with murder but finding sex too much to take?
All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.
Whatever...peace✌
Happiness must be earned.
LOL I have to laugh at myself ever time I read this thread cause I do it so fast I read : Too disgusting for me TO Stop watching....LOL
shareGot it. It has nothing to do with the point at hand.
If you don't like something, that's personal taste and your business, but when you put across someone having consensual sex as disgusting while being okay with cold-blooded murder, kidnapping, and extortion, that speaks to some deep psychological issues on your part.
I thought the sex aspects in question were icky myself, but nothing compared to killing people. Guess I just have a moral compass.
All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.
It's TV.
If they lived normal lives....who'd watch?
Stark sign of small minds: Disgusted by sex, unfazed by violence.
False: all conservatives are stupid people;
True: most stupid people are conservative
Move to HBO!