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Can someone answer me this question about the dogs? (contains spoilers)


I cannot understand why they killed the dogs. I understand that it is Padre García who forces them to kill them but it felt gratuitous to me. A twist before the final twist at the lunch table where he also forces them to take Sandokan in their home. A sort of pre-ending to the final ending that felt unnecessary. I know Padre García wanted to end the dog competition but I have serious problems to believe the rest of priests would agreed on this. It spoiled the ending to me.

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El plan orquestado por el padre García consistía en matar al perro de la competencia de forma de inculpar a sandokan y que los dueños del galgo le den una paliza para que este termine viviendo con los curas con la intención de que este pase a mantenerlos a raya al mismo tiempo que proporcionarle un hogar a la víctima. Para esto era necesario matar al perro de los curas de forma que los dueños del galgo de la competencia no sospecharan que fueron los propios curas que mataron el perro, queda claro? No creo, es un tanto rebuscado, lo sé, pero creo que esta era la intención del guionista.

Si quieres traduces al inglés lo que escribí, porque a mí ya se me hizo complicado escribirlo en castellano!


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Still does not explain the cruelty.


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De cualquier forma que mataran a esos pobres perros hubieras sido cruel. Sobretodo por la forma subrepticia en que tienen que ser realizados los asesinatos para que de resultado el plan maquiavélico del Padre García.

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The point of the movie is that the supposedly "new" church, which Garcia represents, is willing to only go so far with reforms before it backs off and sweeps the dirt under the rug, just like the "old" church.


I'm not convinced that is the point of the movie though (although I'll concede that is part of its theme.)


For starters, how would making these sinners homeless and/or defrocking them be a reform?

The church clearly feels responsible for their sins, and I'm not sure I understand what was supposed to be achieved by closing the house down (or casting the sinners out).

Most importantly, though, I think the film tries to internalize the question of moral reform - by making the sinners directly responsible for an abused person. That is, it seems to address the question of their guilt and responsibility within the context of the church's own assumptions. The Club doesn't so much sweep the dirt under the rug but brings their dirty secret out into the open (if only so the sinners can literally face up to their moral guilt and responsibility).

All said and done, we're still left with a religious resolution.

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I stand corrected bluesdoctor.

From what I saw onscreen, we appeared to be getting a religious film (with the priests ending up living in purgatory).

I'm not sure why it ended up the way it did then - the intended point could have been better conveyed without the tormented soul personifying their guilt.

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I (obviously) didn't find anything funny, but I did start to wonder if the show was using Sandokan's 'rants' for comic effect.

They were so relentless, graphic and over the top the show kind of crossed the line as to their intended effect. I did (kind of) laugh, though, when he mentioned all the medication he needed to take the edge off - that was a might impressive (and detailed) list.

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