Episode in Pamplona


Who the hell are the morons that write these plots?
All the actors and figurants did not look remotely Spanish. They all looked like what people in the US name as Latino-American and talked like them. Pamplona is not at all like the way it was portraied either. Also, American police could not go around Spain with guns. As unlikely as Spanish police going around the US carrying guns.
God, what a stupid episode. Even stupidier than the one in Istambul.

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Stupidity goes beyond prejudice, what about the flesh-eating bull?. Must be a new species,
the carnivore cattle!!! :(


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There is a long post in Reddit aiming to rewrite this episode into something watchable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fixingmovies/comments/4nnpjc/fixing_criminal_minds_1x12_el_toro_bravo/?st=iski1xmg&sh=7d222d24

Mind: Watchable. Not perfect.

Personally, I'd liked it best if they had gone with a possibility mentioned early in that post (but not followed there), which was making the son a Norman Bates-like untreated schizophrenic who bullfights people because he wants to impress his abusive, dead father. That alone would have justified the absurd references to Don Quixote (who had nothing to do with Pamplona) and eliminated some of the (many) plot holes in the third act.

I also would have cut as much of the religious *beep* as I could. But it seems impossible for American writers to use a Spanish setting and not spent half the running time in a church or a convent.

And those *beep* sets. I laughed when Gary Sinise said that there was no way people could watch the show and not believe that they were not actually visiting all those countries, and I cringed while watching the sets used in almost every episode of the first season. That and the language should have been first priorities. On the bright side, the budget in that department can only go up in season 2, now that they can't throw it away building a stupid plane.

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Spaniard here. Absolutely ALL in this episode was wrong, from the depiction of Pamplona to the description of a "corrida de toros", not to speak about the character of Navarre people or their aspect. My husband and I almost died laughing, so ridiculous it was. We weren't offended, buffoonery like this its only damaging for the ones who made it. But let me insist, the icing of this sad cake was the carnivorous bull, a demented Ferdinand!!!.:D

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It was so hilarous and so full of inaccuracies, I couldn't stop laughing! Why Pamploneses had, all of a sudden, Mexican accents and looks? The settings were unbelievably wrong, too. They didn't look like Pamplona at all.

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