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Why isn't this rated R? It's horror?


My 12 yr old autistic son who went to see the Star Trek beyond movie which is rated PG-13 saw this movie trailer and is now freaking the crap out. I want to sue the stupid company.

So are they doing this just to keep teenagers able to go to this movie? Such bs I mean why don't they show this movie trailer before other horror movies instead of the ones that don't have anything scary like Star Trek. Like wtf Hollywood??????

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PG-13 horror has been a thing for years, for one. Secondly, since it is a PG-13 film, they are going to market it before other PG-13 films. It's unfortunate that your son was frightened by the trailer, but that's how marketing works. Maybe next time, get to the film's showing about 15 minutes after the time on the ticket to allow previews to finish. Otherwise, expect this to happen. There's nothing you can really do about it.

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People really can't be expected to show up 15 min before every show. That's kind of silly.

Star Trek had a plot that heavily talked about war and a lot of the fan base are in the older range. That's likely why they felt the trailer was fine. Plus the original Ouija was made for teens/tweens. Not all teens/tweens as not everyone can handle a horror movie, but if you see the film it clearly was.

I'm not trying to make light of what happened. It really sucks, but this is MPAAs fault. If that was used as a warning system to let people know what content was in something better and not as a blasted marketing tool and a way to punish film makers for doing films the MPAA doesn't like, then a LOT of problems would be solved.

I do feel though there should be a couple of horror films for kids cause people need a starting point.

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As for your last point I can think of one recent horror film for kids (Goosebumps) and some of the animated ones go somewhat down that path e.g. Paranorman, Coraline.

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Pg-13 horror has always been a thing. Also as long as it is a green band trailer it can appear before any movie. Technically an R rated movie can have a trailer before a G rated movie.

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Like Sausage Party and Finding Dory?

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I notice that the green band trailer (for appropriate audiences) is a fair bit milder than the more scary trailer. But I do feel sorry for parents in the same situation as the OP. A sensitive child can get hurt this way.









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There are many, many horror movie rated PG13

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Yes there is, and 99% of them are also really bad ?

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Sure, but the same goes for R-rated horror films.

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Maybe you should teach your son there's more to life than storybooks

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PG13 horror movies SUCK ass

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Being R doesn't fundamentally make a horror movie better. It's gonna need a whole lot more than that.

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Being R doesn't fundamentally make a horror movie better.


No-one ever said it did. But there's no confines to an R rated horror movie whereas there's many to a PG-13 rated horror movie.

That being said, these supernatural horror movies aren't usually that graphic or violent and can probably get away with a PG-13 rating.

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That's not what I mean though. He said PG-13 horror movies suck like R is automatically much better. There are so many really great PG-13 horror movies out there (this one being one of them) and there are also a whole lot of bad R rated horror movies. Being R doesn't automatically mean it's a better horror movie and saying "PG-13 horror sucks" clearly gives that implication".

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He said PG-13 horror movies suck like R is automatically much better.


They didn't actually say that though. You just assume it.

No-one has ever said that being R automatically makes a movie good or that PG-13 means it can't be good. People continually make the point on these that certain movies and stories would be much better served having an R rating because of the subject material and then people like you come along and say the same old "R rating doesn't automatically make it good" to which we reply "Yes, but there's a far better chance of it being good" and around and around we go.

Yes, there's plenty of good PG-13 movies. Most of them probably wouldn't have been any better with an R rating. On the other hand there's plenty of good R rated movies and most of those would've been crippled by a PG-13 rating and in many cases impossible to have been made. Certain subject material simply needs an R rating to tell that story and it would be practically impossible to do it within the confines of a PG-13 rating.

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They didn't actually say that though. You just assume it.

And now you are assuming a whole lot of other things too. I'm just basing it on what he said (no-one else - only him) and he said:
PG13 horror movies SUCK ass

So you can't really say that no-one has said that a horror movie being PG-13 means it can't be good because really - that's what he's saying. I was not responding to the OP, I'm just responding to Predator_Vinni99's ridiculous comment that essentially puts all PG-13 horror movies on the same level. The lack of anything to support his statement or properly explain it leaves all of us having to assume a lot of things - and I'm assuming he thinks R rated horror movies are better than PG-13 rated horror movies no matter what the story is because that's all I got and really what else am I supposed to take from it? That PG horror movies are better?

You're assuming for some reason he thinks some PG-13 horror movies are good even though it completely contradicts what he actually said. Let me quote it again:
PG13 horror movies SUCK ass

That's word for word what he said and my response was all about telling him that a rating doesn't make a movie better, the story does. Sure an R-rated horror movie can get away with more... but who cares if it doesn't make the story better? Lots of horror movies obviously don't need an R-rating to tell its story properly which is why I said that if a horror movie is rated R it's still "gonna need a whole lot more than that" to make it better than a PG-13 horror movie.

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I'm pretty sure he simply meant 'PG13 horror movies SUCK ass in general'. I doubt he thinks every single PG13 horror movie in existence sucks and I doubt you think he really meant that either.

In some instances, mainly with something supernatural, a horror movie can probably get away with a PG13 rating but I think, in general, that an R rated horror movie has no confines or restrictions and has much more artistic freedom which will result in a better movie more often than a horror movie working within the confines of a PG13 rated horror movie will. Halloween would probably be rated PG13 now. How many horror movies since have the same minimalist approach that Halloween has? Very few. I myself would like to see more horror movies with the same sort of minimalist approach like Halloween. Unfortunately, modern audiences like disturbing more than scary. Scary is just funny to people now sadly. People want to be grossed out and disturbed.

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Sorry if i say this but i dont think the people that make this stuff or the people that handle the marketing think about autistic people.

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Not all horror movies are rated R? Star Trek Beyond was pretty intense in it's own way, so they probably just put the trailer with the movie because they're both skirting that edge of PG-13.

This is also not a reason to sue, this is what typically happens when kids see stuff that frightens them. And genre trailers don't exist. You can't place a trailer into the genre of a movie you're seeing, it's not like going to the Sci-Fi section of Barnes and Noble and there's a plethora of movies waiting, it's not like that.

Also, they put trailers for different genres into movies to get word out about the movie. For example: you go to see 2013's "Gravity" and you get a trailer for 2014's "A Haunted House 2". Gravity is PG-13, but since producers cut together a green band trailer for "A Haunted House 2" it can be shown to a PG-13 movie. That's just how it works.

Now, instead of getting all up in arms and sue-happy, why not sit down and explain to your son that not everything is sugar-coated niceness and there are things out there that are terrifying. Be a parent, not a lawyer.

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I'd say, whatever insecurities you possess have been projected onto your son. Many parents do this. Stop playing the blame game. The trailer is just rapid edits and loud noises to give the impression of spooky and creepy.

Star Trek Beyond had plenty of intense action\sci-fi sequences that were all designed to give out maximum impact. How do you know it's not Star Trek that might have started to freak him out. The trailer should have been pretty much forgotten by films end.

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