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Rob Lowe and the ending (spoilers)


did he hang himself? If so why?

I think I missed something. why he do that?

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At first I didn't get either. Now that I think about it, I think that other young priest murdered him to keep him quiet. Killed him and then hung him to make it look like suicide.



He was so happy and peppy at the Nun party(great scene, btw). He didn't even give the nun time to tell Celine about his decision.

Did he think the nun wouldn't tell her? He was praying, he must have felt God told him to, which makes no sense. But then again, the priests in the basement left him pretty disillusioned.

Maybe she'll cut him down and save him next week.

I've been avoiding this board since there are so many spoilers, but I had to come here tonight!

Be back in a few weeks!

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But why would the other priests kill him? Everyone thought savior worked.

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This had me upset. I originally was thinking the same thing why did he hang himself, at first I thought it was because he left the priesthood, but the theory of the other priest doing it makes sense.

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No, he absolutely didn't commit suicide. No way.

Watch the last scene in which Jude met with the priests and wasn't going to agree with them:

One of the other priests in the kabal said something like this to Jude "You understand, this must never get out to the public." and Jude just kept walking out. After Jude left, the priest looked at the younger priest and nodded at him as if to say..."Yes, take him out, do what you have to do." Not in words, but in his nod. Very obvious, after the fact.

That's how I understood that scene after what followed.

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^
This absolutely

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That's how I took it too. I expected something to happen to him.

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> I think that other young priest murdered him to keep him quiet. Killed him and then hung him to make it look like suicide.

That doesn't seem likely. The U.S. just announced that the world was saved, so the Vatican would not need to declare anyone to be the Savior. They would have no concerns about what this former priest might blab to the world.

> Did he think the nun wouldn't tell her?

That would hardly be a reason to kill himself. He would just go find her and tell her himself.

> Maybe she'll cut him down and save him next week.

I doubt it. I haven't seen him in the bunker. But, I did see the nun in the bunker. A nun who is carrying his bloodline in her belly!

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The U.S. just announced that the world was saved, so the Vatican would not need to declare anyone to be the Savior. They would have no concerns about what this former priest might blab to the world.


The Vatican has always been concerned about PR. This group of men, acting on their own, made their own determinations and decisions. If Jude's story about their deception and lies reached The Pope, these men would have a lot of explaining to do, no matter what happened.

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I'm pretty sure he did NOT commit suicide.

Examine his state of mind just before this: he was really looking forward to being with his 'wife.'

I think the knowing nod of the bishop or whoever he was - was to tell the other priest to 'silence' him.

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No, he did not hang himself. He do need be silenced so the secret meeting won't be leaked.

Do the general public, or at least writers, in UK hate Catholic Church so much that they have to make up such a story?

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I don't think this arises from hatred for the Church, or not necessarily anyway.

The characters depicted are attempting to avoid existential despair and rage, and the inevitable concomitant destructive behaviors, during the literal end of the world, for over a billion people. Over two billion, if you count other Christians besides Catholics (many do pay some substantial attention to the Church).

One life might not seem like such a huge sacrifice under the circumstances.

Ultimately, I opine that these characters honestly believe they are doing the right thing. I disagree; I think they should have more faith in their flock. But I do not think they are written as evil men.

"Mr. Barba, you're off to a flying stop."

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I don't think this arises from hatred for the Church, or not necessarily anyway.

The characters depicted are attempting to avoid existential despair and rage, and the inevitable concomitant destructive behaviors, during the literal end of the world, for over a billion people. Over two billion, if you count other Christians besides Catholics (many do pay some substantial attention to the Church).

One life might not seem like such a huge sacrifice under the circumstances.

Ultimately, I opine that these characters honestly believe they are doing the right thing. I disagree; I think they should have more faith in their flock. But I do not think they are written as evil men.

Nailed it.

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I'm with the other posters and believe he absolutely did not hang himself. He was murdered by the damn church members.

And he was my favourite character. 

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That was just messed up. What about all that talk that Father Jude gave to the jumper a few weeks back? :(

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Jude was murdered, the church couldn't take the chance of a scandal. The church is just an institution of men, you'd have to be delusional to think they wouldn't go to any length to cover their asses.

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what was the scandal? That the nuns were drinking and partying because planet earth was saved? who really care?

Or did I miss something larger somehow?

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The scandal was that the group of priests in the room with Lowe were willing to just designate a false savior from one of Lowe's failed candidates, and all behind the Pope's back. That was their contingency plan if Lowe had not found a true savior. They were going to deceive their flock, which was no small thing.

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Count me in with him having been killed. Jude wouldn't kill himself, and especially not just then. But the other priests (or whatever their church rank is), they had to keep him quiet.

Celine is my favorite so this was really painful to watch. I almost wished Gaia Scodellaro weren't so good - I could practically hear Celine's heart breaking. Brutal.

"Mr. Barba, you're off to a flying stop."

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It would have been so much easier to have murdered him by hitting him with a car, poisoning his food, shooting him because just think about how difficult it would be to murder someone by hanging them, especially strung up so high. None of it makes sense.

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But time was of the essence, and he was about to leave. They had no opportunity to plan anything like that, or to obtain weapons or poison, and no way to predict his movements.

My guess, the designated guy simply strangled him, then they strung him up so that the ligature marks would cover for the strangling damage and it would look like a suicide (to anyone but Celine, who will know better). It isn't like it'd need to pass any very close inspection, with only a few days left 'til the end of the world.

"Mr. Barba, you're off to a flying stop."

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I do not think Jude killed himself. He was murdered. Doesn't matter if Saviour supposedly worked.
The Cardinals had planned to tell this big lie, and couldn't risk it getting made public.
Especially since now the world was not coming to an end. A lot of people probably would have left the Church over it.

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Agreed (I know I'm late to this thread, but I have only just caught up with this show).

It seemed completely obvious to me that Jude did not kill himself. You even see him turn to see someone come into the room BEFORE Celine gets there. The storyline made it perfectly clear that he was murdered because he was going to expose the false Messiah which the Vatican wanted to reveal. Also, they probably wanted to get rid of him anyway because he was bit of an upstart as they were concerned.

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