Anyone else? The movie got really intense in the final act and it was nice to feel that victory for Roy, but then we got to see reality and I was a bit let down. I definitely would have preferred the evil hospital.
shareIt got a bit too twisted for me as well. The movie felt like it tried hard to make you *think*, that he just makes stuff up, that it seemed more likely that the twist would be "nope, it's all real, it's a conspiracy". Maybe this even was intentional to put in another twist basically saying "nope sorry, fooled you again, it actually IS all in his head".
What I like though is, how bitter and dark the ending was that way. All the people he killed, including the poor dude on his backseat.
I'm clear on what occurred with the wife and daughter, but why do you think he was involved in that fatal accident? What happened to the wife and daughter was after that and not related.
From what I understood he was driving with his wife and daughter. They stopped, the wife went to the toilet to look for something while the daughter faced off a dog which Ray fends off, the daughter falls. This part actually happened, although the movie sometimes hinted at this already being his imagination.
Anyway, now two strands unfold:
1. He imagines his daughter survived and the three rush to a hospital where their organs are about to be harvested. He saves them.
2. In reality the daughter died, his wife paniced and (apparently in shock) he pushed her away which lead to her death. Then he killed the guard and obducted a patient in the middle of a procedure.
How is his daughter dying and he killing his wife not related?
No no, you misunderstood my question completely.
He had killed and wife and daughter at the rest stop, that is very obvious at the end of the film as it showed us exactly what happened.
I was asking you about the car accident victims and why you thought he was responsible for their deaths. I didn't see any link between him and those people. He was in a hospital so it makes sense that people from all types of accidents and injuries were being brought in.
I don't think he had anything to do with that fatal accident. I think the only reason it even mentioned it was to put the imagined organ harvesting idea in his mind.
The flashbacks he was having of a car accident were when his pregnant wife Abby was killed years ago in a car accident which he always felt responsible for.
Sorry if I wasn't clear.
How did he kill the daughter? He threw a rock at the dog and the daughter fell. Killing the wife was accidental Bec he was in shock and had a concussion likely.
shareAgreed. He didn't intentionally kill his daughter or his wife. The daughter fell b/c she wouldn't listen. The wife's death was a complete accident.
shareHe threw the rock at his daughter. His mind made up the dog scenario because he couldn't cope with having killed his daughter.
sharehe wasnt involved in the fatal accident, he took a man of an operating table why was being operated on to save his life and most likely that guy died in the back seat of his car as he drove away since his abdomen was opened up mid surgery
shareYeah, I didn't think he was involved in the fatal crash either but that guy was dead. They were downstairs in the morgue of the hospital.
Anything happening at that point with bodies and what was being done to them was in Ray's warped mind.
I went back and re watched it.
Dead people don't breathe and wince in pain
He was alive and being operated on
I'm going to watch that part again later today. Now you've got me wondering. . . .
shareWell, you were totally right. I watched it again and yes, the kid was about to be operated on when Ray stormed in. He was definitely breathing in the car - and moving a little bit too.
I don't know how I missed it the first time but I did.
Poor kid!!
all good i had to go back to watch again to confirm too.
I agree. The thing is that the guy seemed so off from the first scene that it seemed too obvious that he was making it all up. It would've been good enough to have him doubted by all but be right.
I liked the twist and the bleak ending. It was a bit predictable but I think it would have been a little ridiculous if the hospital was actually harvesting organs. It was an alright movie for a lazy saturday night.
shareyeah, it was about a 6/10 if it ended when it should have. decent acting, creepy atmosphere, some doubt about what was really happening. I docked it 2 points for the stupid twist.
shareI'm already paranoid of the corrupt medical industry, so this movie really played me good. After seeing the scarf, I was absolutely sure he was sane. It was a let down to find out his mind fractured an alternate reality, but still respect for fooling me! :-D
shareWell it was still done quite well, because IMHO the movie made you question if he made it ALL up. While in the end he only made part of it up. So he did have the family and the accident did happen. It was just far worse than he wanted to realize.
Probably this sums up the twist best: it was neither completely imagined nor completely real ... it was actually part of both.
Still, lots of victims there.
it was imagined.
shareI would've also preferred it without the final twist, because... after having seen the ending and knowing what really happened, then, thinking about the entire movie in retrospect, it feels lazy that every piece of evidence that proves the hospital was evil (and that he wasn't hallucinating) can be excused simply by, "Well, he was just imagining that, too."
It reminds me of something my middle school writing teacher encouraged us to avoid - to never end your story with, "and then he/she woke up, because it was all a dream. The End." And that's kind of what this movie did, with the slight difference that the movie is actually suggesting to the audience, several times, that it is indeed a dream (or "hallucination" - same thing, in the context of a movie w/ a twist), but I'm not so sure that that excuses that plot device.
It was still entertaining to watch, but yeah, I also think the final ending made the rest of the movie somewhat of a letdown.
Yeah me too, ending was a let down
shareI also would've preferred the evil hospital. It would've been interesting to see who was all really involved. The cops? The shrink? A few, or the entire town, perhaps making money to "support" their community?
shareNeither the evil hospital or the ‘everything was just a dream’ would’ve worked, but what we got instead feels just soooo unrealistic. So a perfectly sane(just haunted) fellow can’t save his daughter and kills his wife accidentally and all of a sudden he goes bananas and starts hallucinating like there’s no tomorrow? I’m certainly no expert in mental illness, but I really doubt someone could lose their mind that way in a just a few minutes, no matter how traumatic the events are.
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