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I Must've Seen A Different Movie (spoilers)


I don't understand the high ratings for this film. The scariest part was when the mother could have gotten lashed for not wearing her hijab outside and the cops talked to her like she was a piece of $h!t. Yes, there was the odd jump-scare which, I believe, is taking the easy way out when making a horror movie, and the missile inside the apartment was freaky. The acting was good and it was somewhat interesting...but it was definitely not scary. The Djinn was a Djoke (see what I did there? Ha! Ha!). I mean wtf was with the bedsheet it was wearing? White with black leaves on it? Huh? It would've been better to have it in an all-black or all-white, even an all-red sheet but not one with a pattern on it. I almost laughed when I saw that. Very disappointed. 4/10

"It's as much fun to scare as to be scared" -- Vincent Price

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So do I, there's no tangible story here and definitely NO SCARES at all. Better 5.5 then 7.5

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than*

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You have comprehension issues if you reckoned the movie deprived of a tangible story. But again, it's better to take the words of someone who can't distinguish between "then" and "than" with a grain of salt.

One day in the year of the fox came a time remembered well...

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"...if you reckoned the movie deprived of a tangible story."

Anyone who uses deprived in this context probably shouldn't be discounting other's opinions based on grammar.

While deprived can be used as a verb, it simply doesn't work the way it was written here.

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I admit, I didn't like it either - surprising, because so many of the reviews were excellent. I found it boring and the "scares" to be laughable. Very disappointing.

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This movie was a piece of *beep* It's merely getting high praise because it is America's first foray into Iranian horror.

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This is what happens when someone tries to be know-it-all without knowing anything. America's first foray? It's a British production, alongwith Jordan and Qatar not American. Not to mention there has been American-Iranian horror movie before like A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night.

One day in the year of the fox came a time remembered well...

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You're right that this was not at all an Iranian movie (not even filmed in Iran at all), but neither was "A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night", which is an American production by an American filmmaker of Iranian-Azeri descent. Babak Anvari is also Iranian of ethnic Azeri background. For better or worse, within Iran and among Iranians in the diaspora, the film industry is almost totally dominated by ethnic Azeri Iranians, who are now the majority population in Tehran and claim they represent Iranian culture, which they don't. Even the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei and the current President, Hassan Rouhani, are ethnic Azeris. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was very popular simply for being one of the few non-Azeri Iranians to be allowed to run for the presidency. The only other non-Azeri politician in Iran to have been president was Hashem Rafsanjani.

But I digress. There is no domestic market for horror movies in Iran. Most audiences in Iran aren't interested in horror. The closest you'll ever find to "horror" in Iran are movies about the Iran-Iraq War, and how the Iraqis tortured the hell out of Iranian POWs and went around raping and murdering Iranian women and children when Saddam's forces invaded southern Iran in a series of surprise attacks. All true stories, by the way.

So, Iranian horror, as a genre actually existing in Iran, does not exist yet, and I highly doubt the Iranian Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance would ever in a million years approve any kind of horror film for the domestic market -- hell, they don't even allow 90% of the films actually produced in Iran to be shown in Iran, like "A Separation." That's why filmmakers in Iran for the last twenty years or secure funding and distribution rights outside of Iran before they even begin filming, because they know the chances are very low that the Iranian censors will actually allow their films to be shown domestically. But the Iranian censors have no problem with banned films being shown overseas because it's good public relations to do so and it helps boost tourism, so in a way, they all win.

Lastly, most people in Iran despise the so-called "Iranian-American community" of Los Angeles and anything it produces -- "A Girl Walks Home at Night" was thoroughly trashed by bloggers in Iran, especially for the fact that its conflating Azeri culture as somehow being "Persian," which it is not. Disgusting unibrows = Azeri women. Ugh.

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Wow, why didn't I read this before I watched this film that felt 3 hours long when it was less than half of that... I agree with you and everyone. It has its intrigue but damn, what a bore, really.

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I personally really enjoyed it but I like slow psychological drama-horror. I thought the tension and the setting was perfect and it kept me interested until the end. Was definitely not bored. But I agree I could not take seriously what the djinn was wearing, it wasn't scary. All black or red would have been good.

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I really liked it and was quite scared by it (extremely rare for me.) 8/10

Different strokes, I guess.

Peter, is your social worker in that horse?

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ok.

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If you can't enjoy subtext and atmosphere, this isn't for you. Classic Genre fans have been turning their backs on the Recent Horror Surge... Not sure why, other than to go against the grain. Under The Shadow is superior to 99% of Recent Horror. Not just superior either but FAR Superior

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Classic horror fans judge a horror movie by how much it scares them and are oblivious to all other qualities.

The "Recent Horror Surge" I'd call Arthouse Horror. Basically, it's indie character drama, really good filmmaking, that's also horror. Let the Right One In essentially invented the genre, and The Babadook has been the second best. The Witch, It Follows, A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night, Maggie (solid after its weak first act), and this -- all really worth seeing if you're first and foremost a movie lover.

Prepare your minds for a new scale of physical, scientific values, gentlemen.

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That's a fantastic list you got there, I enjoyed every single movie, with Let the right one in at 10/10 but for some reason under the shadow didn't do it for me.
I enjoyed the acting very much, the atmosphere was real but the horror part was disappointing. I find myself wishing it wasn't horror, but more a psychological drama. I loved the movie "A separation" which I recommend.

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