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Explanation for the first baby kidnapping scene (blink of an eye)?


The only explanation I can make for the first kidnapping scene (in which the baby disappears in the blink of an eye), is that the old witch who took the baby, can stop time.

Like a flash superhero villain or a scifi character.


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It's a metaphor for how brief our lives really are, that is, from the point of view of an eternal being like Satan.

"Lightning crashes a new mother cries
Her placenta falls to the floor
The angel opens her eyes
The confusion sets in
Before the doctor can even close the door

Lightning crashes an old mother dies
Her intentions fall to the floor
The angel closes her eyes
The confusion that was hers
Belongs now to the baby down the hall"

So, here we have a brief moment in time that paradoxically is eternal. Capture the moment forever with Kodak flash photography.

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You're aware that the song Lightening Crashes is about the cycle of life and death, right? I'm not sure how that applies to this discussion.

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She's a witch who can fly, communes with Satan himself, and consumes infants for power. Why would this require special explanation?

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This.

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There really are no witches in the film, no Satan. Start with that assumption and see where it leads you.

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wrong assumption and leads nowhere.

You're more advanced than a cockroach, ever tried explaining yourself to one of them?

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LOL

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There really are no LOLs in response to my comment, start with that assumption and see where that leads you, LOL

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Takes you to a sh!t load of plot holes.
The theory doesn't work. Watch the film again LOL.

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LOL. Not a correct approach to the film LOL. LOL.

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I agree with you completely - as I watched this movie I was aware that it was possible to make complete sense of it without needing supernatural explanations.

That was the point of the film, I thought - the human mind and the phantasies it counjours, are more dangerous than reality when we start to believe children's stories. The capacity to convince yourself that something imagined is real is made much worse under conditions of stress, hunger and the hallucigenic effects of psychedelic fungi that can grow on rye.

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Okay, so Caleb ate an apple whole, then vomits it up completely undigested days after the fact? What happened to the twins? Did they just disappear in the night, from a boarded up room?

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The filmmaker has already confirmed that the witch does exist and it isn't in their imaginations.




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It leads to the movie making absolutely no sense.

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I'm pretty sure it was saying she had some sort of illusion/invisibility thing going. The ability to be unseen/unheard if she wanted to be.

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No. Folklore states that in order to create a flying potion it requires the fat of an unbaptized child. The movie Warlock mentions this as well as do numerous folk tales. The younger the child the more powerful the potion.

Hence the reason she rubs it on her body and a pole - the thing the witch rides using the potion.

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I think the baby was snatched by a bird of prey. This started the whole proceedings. They assumed that sin had entered their lives. Thomasin dreamt of the witch killing her brother and making a potion out of him. She was wracked with guilt. The family begins to turn on each other. The twins play acting is common even in modern times in evangelical churches with talking in tongues and writhing on the floor for no reason. Thomasin also had guilt for becoming woman and possibly menstruating that's why she saw blood instead of milk, milking the goat. In the end she had to kill her own mother because the mother was insane with grief. This sent Thomasin over the edge of madness and she imagines the talking goat..she walks off into the woods in delirium and imagines shes a witch coming upon a flying coven. Oh Caleb most likely was bitten in the woods by a spider or venomous snake, was poisoned or sickened,thus imagining a witch kissing him because of his guilt he carried for looking at his sister breasts..He dies in a delirium spouting religious nonsense in the end. I believe there were no demons, witches or talking farm animals....just humans and their capacity for ignorance, superstition and the inclination to blame and start to attack others..even those the love.

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Your explanation for this film is the dumbest thing I've ever read.
It's actually painful to read because sadly, you think you are coming across as smart when you actually look insanely stupid.

You need to re watch this film and hopefully you will see how your explanation makes no sense.
I do hope you redeem yourself and see where you went wrong but I'm not counting on it.

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Quit trying to be a hero, you fool.
Clearly, they did not understand the film if they actually think the baby could have been stolen by a bird!
Do you really not see why that is so stupid?

I've never seen so many people misinterpret a film so badly.

People's stupidity annoys me.

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Yep, it's called the Dunning Kruger effect and I don't think I'm smarter than anyone.
I can be an idiot just like anyone else can.

I just happen to be annoyed by the multiple explanations for this very simple story.
The directer confirmed that there was a literal witch in the film.
He even showed the witch within the first 5 minutes of the film just so the audience would be aware of this........And yet STILL people can't help but make up their own stories for a film that already has one.

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Agree with your explanation, but I always prefer to think that the idea in this type of films is to let the viewer "decide" if it was all supernatural, or like you explained, just the interpretation of events in the mind of the characters. Like, both explanations are correct.

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Movies are great because you can interpret them as you like!

My theory about how the witch stole the child was through use of a camouflaging charm and one to increase traveling speed. You can see how the grass moves as though something has zipped through it in a matter of seconds. And as Thomasin was preoccupied with Samuel, she wouldn't notice something watching them for the opportune time to snatch the baby and run like hell to get out of there. Witchy wanted to fly real bad!

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Why does it have to have anything to do with stopping time? Why can't the witches just be incredibly fast?

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