Its all Bram's fault - Colony (2016) Discussion

[–] mobocracy (845) 7 years ago

It goes even further -- what if he hadn't been using the utility tunnels to scavenge outside the walls for black market goods?

He wouldn't have gotten caught, wouldn't have been sent to the camp, wouldn't have gotten the Rap ship blown up, the camp wouldn't have been flattened, he wouldn't have gotten in with the Red Hand, the Ambassador would still be alive.

He is like singlehandedly responsible for everyone.

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[–] neverstandinalone (641) 7 years ago

Hmmm, sounds like Rick in TWD.

If I could place blame, Bram is too much like his mother.

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[–] xfool (922) 7 years ago

The difference is Bram witness first hand how ruthless the Raps are when they destroy the labor camp , he should get the idea that the same could happen to the bloc if the situation still deteriorate.

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[–] Motoko_Kusanagi (60) 7 years ago

I blame Snyder. :P He shouldn't have saved Bram when the Raps were about to neutralise the camp.

The Green Zone attack would likely still have occurred but with someone not so radicalised the ambassador might have survived.

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[–] Costumer (1785) 7 years ago

Bram seemed to me to be the least radicalized of the Red Hands.

And to those blaming him for everything, what blame? Should everyone do nothing because something might go wrong. The Red Hand was too radical, obviously. But Bram's other activities seem normal for oppressed people living under a dictatorship.

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 7 years ago

The raps planned on emptying out LA anyway. All the resistance activity simply accelerated the timetable without altering the final result. Especially after the red hats participated in the rendition, then were arrested and sent along with everyone else to the Factory, you wonder how the occupation higher ups don't realize what this eventually means for them. But if humanity doesn't fight back - and win - there won't be anyone left alive if and when the raps leave Earth. You can't fault Bram for rebelling. Or his mother for that matter. It was the right choice. Without the resistance they wouldn't have the gauntlet, which just might give the world a fighting chance even though it doomed Los Angeles.

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[–] Xenopharb (617) 6 years ago

Bram got his teacher sent to the factory; he kept his family from leaving the block by getting caught; he got the inmates at the supply camp killed, he sneaks out from a safehouse by night; he goes on a mission to murder people in the green zone just for living in the green zone; he shoots a diplomat, and he uses his aunt to escape while lying to her - putting her in mortal danger.

Then he blames it on everyone else. Poor Bram. He is really Robbie Ferrier in disguise.

Kid, ... listen, do what you are told, and be quite. You are not trained to save the world.

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[–] kenburke (2279) 6 years ago

The one responsible for the crime is the one that commits the crime, not a victim of the crime. The Raptors and the Raptors alone bear full responsibility for what they have done, not an imprisoned adolescent.

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[–] chrisjdel (2714) 6 years ago

The fact that others living in the bloc might blame him for what happened is exactly the kind of mindfuсk that happens during an occupation. You probably think you'd be immune to propaganda but unless you're consistently reminding yourself of the truth, making a real effort to keep things straight in your own head, it gradually seeps in. The desire to stay safe and believe in any hope the occupiers offer (even if deep down you suspect it's false hope) also has a poisonous effect on the ability to see reality. Or maybe I should say, on the desire to see reality.

There are things we don't know. Maybe the Raps don't actually plan to kill every single human, but in all likelihood the upper administration of the Occupational Authority are simply going to be the last group marched out to the showers. They've been told there are special plans for them no doubt. They won't share the rest of humanity's fate. Many of them might even believe it, for the same reason residents of LA believe that if they behave and follow the rules they'll be okay. The likely truth is just too bleak and too hard to face.

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