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Where would you take the franchise from here?


The Bourne franchise is at a bit of a crossroads at the moment. Around 2007-08, the world was its oyster and people were clamoring for more.

Now...we've had a spinoff that was a bit of a mess and didn't take. The long-awaited fourth Damon movie that...somehow didn't bring the magic back, though it had some interesting features.

The continuation novels by Lustbader are doing okay, I suppose (haven't read the latest one) but the character of Bourne has been diluted into non-recognition there and become a kind of generic action hero.

So how would you take this franchise forward, if at all?

A few option I had in mind...


1. A fifth and final Jason Bourne movie with Matt Damon. It would build upon one of the few interesting aspects of the last movie - namely Alicia Vikander's Heather Lee character and her ambiguous relationship with Bourne, as well as the possibility of Bourne returning to the Agency. The film would start with some new mastermind emerging who's a major geopolitical threat. And either this mastermind, or someone linked to him/her is tied to Bourne's past - possibly to a mission David Webb carried out in Special Forces or while in Treadstone. Maybe this individual is someone Bourne believes he killed but the guy is somehow still alive? This necessitates Lee asking for Bourne's help. Bourne of course doesn't trust her or the CIA but he is interested in finding out what this latest ghost from his past is up to? And he really does want to save lives and make a difference, like Nicky would have wanted him to, like his father would have wanted him to. So we have Bourne and the CIA in an uneasy alliance against this mysterious new threat. And I'd like the film to end, if not with a happy ending, then with Bourne finding a modicum of peace at last.

2. A Treadstone TV show serving as a quasi-prequel/reboot to the Bourne canon. It would focus on the origins of Treadstone. The first season would revolve around the hunt for former Treadstone asset Leonid Arkadin who goes rogue on a mission in Russia. Alex Conklin puts together a unit to take him down before he compromises the program. This involves putting a new asset into play - a man called 'Charlie' who we eventually learn is named 'Jason Charles Bourne' i.e. the original Bourne. At some point in the show, maybe at the end of the first season or the start of the second, they introduce David Webb, as an academic and scholar who gets drawn into the intelligence game gradually as an analyst. And at some point, Webb's wife is killed and his own dark journey begins...The end-point for this series could either be the day Webb adopts the identity of Jason Bourne, or the day Bourne is shot in the head and falls into the sea...

3. A high production value TV miniseries that re-adapts the original Ludlum novels The Bourne Identity and The Bourne Supremacy, preserving all the intricacies and complexities of the original plots, and preserving the original 1980's period, but with a contemporary aesthetic and tone. Sorta like what BBC is doing with their new Agatha Christie adaptations.

4. A reboot of the movie franchise, which begins with a new variant on the plot of Identity. But this time, there's a twist - the protagonist eventually learns about the David Webb backstory from the books and briefly works as a CIA asset, but ultimately learns he was manipulated and he isn't really David Webb at all. By the end of the first movie, the mystery and ambiguity of Bourne's true origins is restored as he's literally a different character from the previous version (who might even exist in-universe!) And they can take him in totally new directions...


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after this mess of an ending there is only two ooptions, make a movie with Bourne and Cross to team up or reboot the whole trioligy but leave this turd crap of a movie away from the reboot.

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Let it die. This film can be overlooked as people still have a lot of love for the original trilogy but if more are made they will drag the Bourne legacy down into the mud.

Nolan knew three Batman films was enough. Greengrass should've known better...

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This series has been dead in the water, since Homeland the TV series started. It has so much more depth than these movies. I'm no longer interested a movie where Bourne has absolutely no threat at all, get into symbolic fights and car chases, with boring storylines,all to prove that he's unstoppable.

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I'd like one more film with Damon and Cross but only if they can come up with a decent screenplay if they can't then just leave things be.

If we do get another film I don't want to see Vikander in it. Before I saw the film I was very sceptical about her castings and having now seen the film she was just so wrong for it on so many levels. If she needs to be in it for continuity reasons just give her 5 mins and kill her off.

Quite like the idea of doing a tv series set in the 80's based solidly on the original Ludlem books, not sure how viable it would be though.

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Considering this movie put the franchise into the gutter, they better hope they don't go any lower.

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I'd take it back to who forced his dad to lie to Jason. Also, Jason is now madder than a caged angry mink, and can't trust anyone, including the one who helped him, Lee. And with Nicky gone he truly is a live wire. Heather's blown her credibility with Jason, but she might be a double agent. I'm like use that accent 'issue' and make it part of the storyline. But the BIG TIME issue for Jason is Jason feels he "volunteered" based on a lie.

What bothers me is why would he so surprised they watched him to see if he was prime mission material?

I just loved seeing all the older stuff blended in with the newer stuff. And find out The Asset (Vincent) has been an agent for all that time? Great work on the visuals. I really, really, enjoyed this film, the story, all of it. Keep up the good work.

GFW

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Great work on the visuals. I really, really, enjoyed this film, the story, all of it. Keep up the good work.


Thanks. I'll make sure to keep that in mind when directing the next movie.

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The only thing I would want to see as a fan is a crossover movie with Aaron Cross played by Renner, Bourne played by Damon.

Anything else I would not pay to see. No TV show, no reboot, none of that.

Edward Norton's character (Byre) was not killed in Legacy and neither was Stacey Keach's character. Obviously Alicia Vikander (Heather Lee) is alive and well.

You could take Damon, Renner, Edward Norton, Alicia Vikander and Stacey Keach and piece together one crossover film. Add in a new character or two to spice things up (ala Jayla in Star Trek Beyond) and you've got a film.

If not, let the franchise die. It's done. We had three great films, the terrible Bourne Legacy and a mediocre rehash in Jason Bourne. In about 10 years, Damon will be too old to be acceptable as running around, jumping off buildings, crashing motorbikes, etc.

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It needs to die with whatever little dignity is left. No more reboots either, that's all there is these days.

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Team up with the Die Hard franchise, and go after some bad guys.

Issue Matt Damon and Bruce Willis some high tech walkers and canes. Go for the boomer dollar. You're good for another ten movies with that strategy.

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