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FLDS...Not All That Different From Any Organized Religion..??


I just saw this excellent new documentary from Showtime Documentary Films. The film examines Warren Jeffs' life and shows how he became a worshipped and adored Prophet. Warren has a devout following numbering in the tens of thousands - many of whom would give their life at any moment with just one word from the Prophet. Despite a trail of abuse and ruined lives, he has maintained his grip on power. Wow!

As disturbing as this film shows organized religion can get, I couldn't help but think to myself as I was watching this - that this really isn't all that different from most organized religions. No, of course, not all take things to this extreme and abuse; but just the insanity of where it takes your thinking, your mind set; how you view your place in the world, as well as your children's in relation to yourself.

This is one of the best docs I've seen all year. I would encourage all to check out this movie, and be warned, no cross section of Catholic priests has anything on Mr. Jeffs...

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true.

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Many the religions I know of have/have had pedophilia and abuse as a central part of them. Muhammed married a 9-year-old girl. Catholic priests are hidden by the church when they abuse children. A lot of cults have sexual deviant leaders. Scientology have a house where they beat up the members and they basically imprison members and use them as slave labor. Yes, this is seen many times before. But even though the messages are repeated in this documentary I still think it deserves to be heard again and again until the problem is solved in at least modern Western societies. But yes, it could have been a documentary on any cult/religion with Orthodox members.

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Absolutely...

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Amy Berg's first documentary in 2006, Deliver Us From Evil, was about the perversions of a Boston catholic priest who the hierarchy kept moving from diocese to diocese.

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Ah; that's a great film I was just talking with someone about last night. I didn't realize it was from the same filmmaker.

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I agree with you in many ways. I do think that any honest person will admit there is something beyond our current physical existence, which is what has given rise to the world's religions.

Most religions that I have a problem with put emphasis on the current leader of that religion. That is a completely bogus logical position to be in. How can a being who is on the same plane of existence as you have anything to offer??

I have plenty of exposure to religions such as the Self-Realization Fellowship and Catholicism and found them to be quite disturbing.

I personally have found Biblical Christianity to make the most sense to me. In this case, we are all equal to each other in the sight of our creator and doing physical acts by rote are not going to earn your way to heaven. We simply place our trust Christ to bear our evil so that we may enter the afterlife pure. Beyond that, anything added is heresy, such as what you find in LDS and FLDS.

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personally have found Biblical Christianity to make the most sense to me. In this case, we are all equal to each other in the sight of our creator and doing physical acts by rote are not going to earn your way to heaven. We simply place our trust Christ to bear our evil so that we may enter the afterlife pure. Beyond that, anything added is heresy, such as what you find in LDS and FLDS.


That's correct. I agree.

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Why would "any honest person...admit there is something beyond our current physical existence"?

What "evidence" is there to support such honesty? And, by evidence I mean that which is testable and repeatable. Not quotes from the Bible or some other "holy" book. Or, your own profession of intense faith?

Something concrete beyond the intense feeling that some have that it must be correct because otherwise...

What has given rise to the world's religions is not acceptance of the truth of a supernatural world surrounding and enfolding us but, the FEAR (fear and awareness of our own mortality) that such a world does not, in fact, exist. No heaven. No hell. No god (or gods). No survival after death.

Just hydrogen gas, time, and statistics.

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