Why didn't she name Winston the night of the alleged rape when interviewed by police?
- She contacts police that night
- Doesn't know the name of her alleged attacker (police don't bother looking for him)
- DNA evidence is taken that night
- First day of class she recognizes Winston as the attacker and calls police
- DNA evidence matches Winston (when the police finally take it 9 months later)
There has been stuff written about this topic that is more thorough than what you've laid out. For example: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415269/cinematic-railroading-jameis-winston-stuart-taylor-jr
I think we need to have this national conversation about sexual violence against women both on and off college campuses. But I don't think elevating questionable cases as exemplars is the way to do it; you give an out for the people inclined to believe the problem is "overblown" (or whatever other dismissive term they want to use).
That article doesn't answer my question of why she waited to name Winston if she knew who he was. No answer from anyone because there isn't one that makes sense.
As for her being tested for drugs - something as simple as Visine (containing tetrahydrozoline) can be used to drug someone enough to make them incoherent. It wasn't tested for.
Crickets...
shareGoing by the documentary she said that she didn't know his name. She didn't know he was a well known athlete, so it was only when she went to her first class that she happened to have with him did she recognise him and and so during roll call was when she learned his name for the first time.
I'm inclined to believe her story as well as the stories of the other girls. What do they have to gain anyway other than ridicule/notoriety/public shame by coming forward with such allegations? It's not like she can sue him for the millions he doesn't have. He's just a college student.
Yeah, they were all shamed and ridiculed at the Oscar. They are all fighting against injustice, that is until there's a million dollar check, then, it's time to stop fighting.
All these liars and this film do, is creating a huge disservice to all the real rape victims out there.
Erin Pizzey
https://youtu.be/Ix5-jqQYU1M
Can we start this national conversation with how we managed to get the 1-in-5? Hmm? And why campus rape cases are not handled over to police? Hmm?
Erin Pizzey
https://youtu.be/Ix5-jqQYU1M
Why stop there? There's only about 7 other versions of her story that changed you can ask of her why she did them. Like why did her original story and description of Winston be not even close to her later stories or actual description of him?
There's probably only crickets here because so many are so tired of addressing all the same questions which are only relevant if you completely ignore all the other facts of the case.
To actually answer some of your questions, none of them actually prove any guilt upon Winston and actually only helps prove his innocence which is why the FSU-hating SAO decided not press charges because he knew he had no case.
She did not contact the police, she blurted out something which made a friend concerned who then contacted the police which began the rollercoaster ride of a story she then had to stick with.
It's unclear (and extremely unlikely) she didn't know his name, but regardless she didn't turn it over if she did. She then did not want to proceed in the case which is why the investigation originally ended because without her they had nothing and can't just read her mind on a name.
DNA was taken, but DNA without a match means nothing. Winston doesn't have a record and isn't in any database to have his DNA matched so they could hold onto his DNA forever and without finding someone to pair it with it means nothing. He wasn't the only DNA found in her special areas that night, there was also another man's DNA who she later lied and claimed was her boyfriend when he never cooperated with police, never substantiated her boyfriend claim and was later a witness FOR Winston at his COC hearing at FSU. Her sleeping with her former black HS QB and her current college black QB within hours wasn't a good look for her, but that's what happened.
She claims she recognized him the first day of class and whether that is true or a convenient coincidence or claim by her is still unclear. She didn't call the police, she called her attorney. When FSU found out about her claim, they made every resource possible available to her if she needed anything and allowed her to transfer to any other class without penalty and she refused and chose to remain in the class.
The DNA matching Winston doesn't mean anything regarding rape. All that means is there was a sexual encounter which he never denied. It would be one thing if he denied anything, but from the very beginning he never denied it and DNA evidence supported his claim. The police didn't take DNA 9 months later, they only had a name to match the original samples with 9 months later when she named him. They can't go door to door to try and match it with everyone in the world. In addition, they didn't only find his DNA in her special areas, they also found it on her face. Finding the same DNA on her face as they found down south doesn't exactly line up with a rape claim. Rapists may go crazy down there, but they don't exactly make it a point to also leave their moneyshot special "DNA" seed on their victims cheeks as well.
This doesn't even begin to address the multitude of other issues with just this version of her story such as her social media actions during and after that time, her claims of drugs and alcohol which were proven to be false, her changing statements to investigators, her conflicting statements with her own witnesses and much more.
I hope this clears up some things for you. Anyone believing this girl is simply being willfully ignorant and has no care for the facts and evidence in the case. She's a liar and it's been proven.
You throw out a bunch of inconsistencies but most of them if you actually think about it don't actually matter. Like you mention that her description didn't match him... except we know he DID sleep with her. So how does that matter? It's possible that she couldn't provide a strong description because she was fairly drunk. That would only matter if there was some question of whether they had sex at all. There is not.
There is also no proof that she wasn't drugged but merely that she didn't test positive for anything they tested for.
Using things like his roommate denying that they said certain things are possibly worth mentioning but acting like they are proof of anything is weird. People lie all the time and many people are glad to lie for a friend.
Another guy's semen being found in no way invalidates that this man raped her.
It's been pretty well established that the investigation was botched beyond all belief. A bunch of new facts came out just today that make the investigation look even more like a joke than ever. It's probably fair to say based on that investigation you couldn't make much of a legal case with no reasonable doubt. However that certainly doesn't prove him innocent in any way and the question the topic creator asked really doesn't seem to have a logical answer.
It's not unusual for people who are victims of physical trauma to have trouble remembering all the details neatly so their stories may appear to be changed. it also doesn't help if you are under the influence of alcohol or drugs. But the thing is that men who rape women kind of rely on and use this as proof they aren't guilty.
shareIt's not unusual for people who are victims of physical trauma to have trouble remembering all the details neatly so their stories may appear to be changed. it also doesn't help if you are under the influence of alcohol or drugs. But the thing is that men who rape women kind of rely on and use this as proof they aren't guilty.
I would have thought my post was self-explanatory. I'm saying that just because her story seemed to have changed over time doesn't mean she was lying. It also doesn't mean she wasn't. But there are legitimate reasons why a victim's statement may change and that in itself is not a good enough reason to start disbelieving her story.
shareBut there are legitimate reasons why a victim's statement may change and that in itself is not a good enough reason to start disbelieving her story.
If Erica Kinsman Is Lying...
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Are you stupid? We know they had sex. None of them have denied that. In fact, she had a threesome.
shareAre you stupid? We know they had sex. None of them have denied that. In fact, she had a threesome.
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then you are stupid.
sharethen you are stupid.
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You can hardly call it a documentary. Just because you interview some people, that doesn't make it a documentary. All of the stats they posted have been proven to be bunk and it's been show to be just a profit seeking film with with a political backing.
And Winston has never once denied sleeping with her. From the very beginning he stated they slept together and that it was consensual. His story is the only one that has never changed. That's why he volunteered his DNA to test against the rape kit. That did nothing to prove his guilt, to the contrary, it actually corroborated his story. It's annoying how simpletons fail to understand these easy facts and just continue with the ignorant narrative the media wants you to believe. Low level foolishness.
And Winston has never once denied sleeping with her. From the very beginning he stated they slept together and that it was consensual. His story is the only one that has never changed.
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