The fact is this: a woman should be able to walk down the street drunk and naked without beign assaulted.
Agreed, she should not be raped for this behavior. She should be thrown in jail until she sobers up. Perhaps she should also be registered as a sex offender the same way men who urinate in public are. You know, because "equality".
Yet no one would suggest they do it because the chance of a man raping her is significant.
Is it? Citation needed. Please show me proof that drunk naked women in public are at a higher chance of being raped. You know, becuse...
Facts really are facts.
Of course we're not really talking about what happens in public are we now, Prosodic? We're talking about what happens in private. I think what you want is for women to behave any way she wants in private without consequence. If you prance about in a mans room butt naked guess what? You consented to sex! There is no clearer method of consent than prancing around naked. But while women want sex they don't want to bear the responsibility that comes with it. This is why so very many women engage in last minute resistance with men, many women get turned on by men who are willing to take the risk of going to prison by disregarding the woman's mock protestations.
I would remind you many women get raped in situations that do not include them being drunk, sexually flirtatious or placing themselves in any perceived risky situation.
Sure they do but they are in the minority. Once again:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/221153.pdf When you lose the ability to be responsible for yourself, you drastically increase the chances that you will attract the kinds of people who, shall we say, don’t have your best interest at heart. That’s not blaming the victim, that’s trying to prevent more victims. This is why, despite all their bloviation, I know feminist aren't really interested in reducing rape. They want to grant women the privilege of being able to act in any manner they choose without any legal or social repercussions. Personally I wouldn't even mind that aspect of feminism all that much except you don't want the same granted to men. Should men be allowed to "walk down the street drunk and naked" and be "sexually flirtatious" with women? Don't bother answering, of course you don't and if you said you did in the name of equality you'd be lying, I know it and everyone reading this knows it.
I bet your also one of these men who doesn't believe a woman can be raped in a marriage.
Quite the staw-man you have there Prosodic! Tell me, what else do I believe in my heart of hearts? I've never been psychoanalyzed by a feminist before! For the record, I'm no traditionalist. While marriage is unquestionably beneficial to society, it is a net negative for men and is therefore dying out. The reasons for this have nothing to do with whether rape is legal within the institution or not.
And right now there is a significant amount of men harming women and children in society.
And how many women harm children? More women harm children in society than men, even when controlled for the fact women are more often caretakers, and boys are more likely to be the ones killed, either through violence or neglect:
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/cm2012.pdf#page=76.
Also facts prove that men are pretty much the violent perpetrators in our society.
A serious problem to be sure. Perhaps you ladies should, I dunno, stop rewarding violent male adolescents with sex:
http://evp.sagepub.com/content/13/4/1474704915613909.full.pdf+html Just a thought.
So you have little faith in men then if you think women can change their behviour and stop a man raping them. I find this interesting because surely that is sexist against men to believe rthey aren't capable of not raping a woman if the woman shows sexual interest, gets drunk and seems intereested.
You have no idea whatsoever what it is like being a man. None. You have absolutely no business fielding an opinion on the matter. This is complete and total ignorance on your part. Embarrassingly so. You haven't the foggiest clue how strong the sex drive is in men. If you did you would be on your knees thankful that you don't live in an actual rape culture, where women would in fact be reduced to nothing more that sexual objects, and nothing more. Caged up like animals, the property of men. You have no idea how lucky women are. It easily could have ended up that way, given that it was largely men who built civilization. The fact that didn't happen is the clearest proof of all of the innate benevolence men have always displayed towards women.
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tzogas
7 years ago
You have no idea whatsoever what it is like being a man. None. You have absolutely no business fielding an opinion on the matter."...."You haven't the foggiest clue how strong the sex drive is in men."
Why shouldn't we have an idea of what it is like being a man? You've "built a civilization" that revolves around and accommodates a man's priorities and perspective. And you, poster, continue to appoint yourself as the arbiter of everybody else's reality. I mean, look at you. You can't even tolerate the notion of affording space for a variety of perspectives. Here's one right now: During the peak of my athletic training, and whether due to strenuous exercise and/or changing hormone levels, or for reasons yet unknown, I experienced a spike in my libido that became physically painful - so yes, I know what a strong sex drive feels like, and I
still didn't go out and rape anybody. And I'm putting that particular card on the table despite exposing myself to ridicule and blah blah "nymphomaniac" and other such terms which shame and discourage women from talking candidly about their drives - even with their own
doctors.
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Caged animals, the property of men"? We
already live in an actual rape culture where women are in fact
reduced to nothing more than sexual objects and nothing more
- and very occasionally, they break their chains and escape the basements in which they've been kept, and repeatedly raped by their captor(s), for years. Oh, maybe you meant that free women should just shut up and be grateful we're not them. Or what? We stand in support and solidarity with those women - because ALL of us share the same kind of risks every single time we put a foot out our front door; risks which are supposedly almost negligible, but of which we are constantly reminded - not least from your own posts. You liked painting that picture of caged and subjugated women for us, didn't you? It is you who has no idea of women - and the ways in which our strength is taken for granted and our worth dismissed.
It was also largely [if not exclusively] men who built the slave trade. Apparently, none of those slaves were women. Oh wait. Black women don't register on your radar. And don't even bother with the who "started slavery" and "what color they were" argument - because, as you said yourself, "
it was largely men who built civilization" - so take credit for the slave trade as well, and/or admit that "civilization" was really built FOR you by those whom you enslaved.
And by the way? You are conflating a man's exuberant and healthy sex drive with the violent entitlement of a rapist. Rape turns normal men off - and normal men also have a need/desire to bond with their partners - though I already know you discourage that kind of "fag nonsense". "Real men" just go ahead and "take what they want" - right? Right? Tell us just one sincere story about a caring sexual relationship/experience you've had with a woman. Tell us just one sincere story about the time you successfully resolved an interpersonal conflict with a woman.
As it stands now, though, just about everything you've said here, and the ways in which you have said them, conform with a rapist's rationalizations. There is simply no other explanation for you at this point.
**Have an A1 day**
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