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Make Germany (America) great again!


When I heard that line in that monologue my blood ran cold.

Brilliant film and one that will stay with me for a long time.

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Totally unintended, but you're are not the only one who made the comparison between DT and AH.

"That was a courtesy flush. I'm not actually done yet"

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Wait... the idea of making a country great again makes your blood run cold? Get a grip.

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The fact that the leader for the nomination for president of the United States and the ACTOR portraying HITLER said virtually the same thing caused me to shudder. Thought it was a weird coincidence. I get it, it's a fkn MOVIE! I wasn't being political at all.

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Your visceral reaction is prompted by the fact that this film veers from satire to flat out PROPAGANDA (something the book that it is based upon never did!); this attempt to indoctrinate is made quite clear from the inclusion of the news footage at the end.


Carpe Cine

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How is showing people acting just like those they claim are the criminals propaganda? Just as Islamic terrorists never actually target the guilty neither do Americans or Europeans who claim their violence is the result of Islamic terrorism. It's always some poor innocent who pays the price for sweeping generalizations and whoever takes their anger out on the innocent IS wrong. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

"Nothing is more ill bred than trying to steal the affections of someone else's dog."

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It seems like you're making one of those "sweeping generalizations" you seem to be so adverse to in your statement. When a satirical film about Hitler and the evil he perpetrated ends with news footage of protests against refugees flooding Europe, you are equating the horror of the Holocaust with a rising tide of Nationalism; that is called PROPAGANDA. Just because you agree with such drivel does not alter that fact. As I said, the book does not lend itself to petty promulgation, unfortunately the filmmakers did not follow suit.

Carpe Cine

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The film, while entertaining in many ways, fails when it makes its heavy handed, specious analogy between what happened in Germany eighty years ago and what is happening today. German Jews of the 1930s bore no resemblance to Muslims flooding Germany now. Imprisoning, enslaving, medically experimenting upon, and executing millions of innocent Muslims, as the Jews experienced during the Holocaust, is no longer likely to become government policy. All that is desired is that they not overwhelm Germany and the rest of Europe, or, with their numbers and fanaticism, cause western European culture to be changed to resemble that of the Muslim world.

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@liscarkat-2: You obviously don't get the message of the movie, nor understand that it is the fear for other people different than you, that is a threat to peace in Europe. The actors and details of the story may have changed, the basic story line is the same. It's worrying that your belief of superiority is very common. As without a doubt you'll deny this, but instead you should question yourself. If you don't, like many, another war is imminent.

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"Belief" of superiority? Everybody is superior in their own home. A Swede in Sweden will always be more important than a Somali in Sweden. A German in Germany will always be more important than a Syrian in Germany. A Japanese in Japan will always be more important than an American in Japan. That's a basic principle of territoriality. Globally, all people may be equal, but locally, the locals are always worth more than the newcomers.

And I wouldn't really call it worrying. It's actually quite comforting and refreshing to see the locals finally wake up and start taking back the territory they previously lost to the uninviteds, unwanteds & unwelcomeds.
After all, would you yourself like to share your home with somebody who disrespects you, refuses to keep your rules and demands special treatment from you? I bet you wouldn't. And you shouldn't be expected to, either! Nobody should be expected to accommodate to uninvited guests.

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Now that's a scary train of thought. You use propriety as an excuse to defend your POV. Your home. Your rules. You claim everybody is superior in their own home. You feel somehow disrespected because people who are different from you are somehow disrupting the way you believe the world ought to work.

There's a word for that: prejudice.

That's the kind of mindset that causes friction and tension between people. Humanity is supposed to share the only world they have. Your petty attitude goes against any kind of social evolution or any peaceful attempt at coexistence. I feel sorry for you.

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So I should be able to come into your home and disrupt your way of life, and if you disagree with that, you're prejudice? Seriously? Why should the people that have lived there for centuries have to change their way of life to accommodate the newcomer? It is the newcomer who adapts, not the other way around.

Life is pain. Anyone who says differently is selling something.

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You are making a false analogy between your house and your country. You own your house, but you do not own your country. A Somalian who has moved to Sweden lives in Sweden, and so Sweden is his home - just as much as someone who was born in Sweden. You can tell someone who came uninvited to your house, "get out of my house", but since you do not own your country, you do not get to decide who is or isn't welcome. That's for the government to decide.

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What causes tension between people is integrating different evolutionary paths and cultures into one place and expecting everybody to get along. Equality is only viable alongside homogeneity.

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It is curious how you haven't argued for Amerindians to kick out the invading Europeans .

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It makes my blood run cold for a few reasons. The Trump comparison for one, and if you follow events, it's sort of hard not to find comparisons between those two. Yeah, I know, EVERYone stoops to the Hitler in politics, Obama's presidency to Sherrif Joe in AZ. But this whole movie could seriously draw some meaningful comparisons for many following events.

The second reason is this- when has America OR Germany stopped being their versions of "great"? Speaking as an American who loves his country, we've always been a great country. We were a great country in WW2, we are still a great country in spite of (or because of) Vietnam, Iraq, drones, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama. Perfect no. But that first comparison could change the game...

Politicians stoop to the absolute lowest common denominator that really means nothing but a knee-jerk reaction in those that don't think, and "Make ________Great Again!" is usually the first ball lobbed over the net

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Hitler came to power because the conditions in Germany had deteriorated so much the people turned to a radical to try and get them out of the mess they found themselves in, that's that main comparison between Hitler and Trump as the the 2 men couldn't be any more different. Hitler was a devoted Nazi who ordered genocide on a scale Humanity had never seen before and started a world war that killed over 50 million people. He had stated for years before he came to power that he wanted to invade Russia and get rid of the the Jews in Europe. Trump is a businessman and TV personality who loves attention and money and nothing much else.Let's be honest here, comparing Trump to Hitler is absurd.

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