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'Now is the envy of all of the dead' ... 'Okay'

posted 8 years ago by mikebos
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I had never even heard of this short film until I saw in on netflix, and decided that I could sacrifice 16 minutes to check it out.

By the time it was done, I was absolutely blown away. I started off laughing my ass off at the interaction (and obliviousness) between the two Emilys. Then I was hit by the darkness of it. I've watched it 4 times since last night, and will probably watch it a few more times tonight.

Side Note:
One concept that I think a lot of films miss when talking about "cloning" and such, is that they're not addressing whether it's the original person's consciousness being placed into the clone. In other words, will it simply be a new creation who just looks like the original person, and has their memories? Or will it literally be the consciousness of the original person transplanted into the new body to continue their life (like in 'Chappie')? This film discusses transplanting consciousness as well as implanting memories into clones as different methods of continuing a life. I can't tell if they're conflating the two ideas, or actually addressing that both of them are taking place.

[–] MultiSanity 8 years ago

You just ruined Chappie for me, thanks.

But in all seriousness it took me awhile to understand the differences between the two cloning techniques since it's pretty subtle?that and the fact that I got the impression that it started off as being the consciousness of a person downloaded into their new cloned body but that as the process continued it became less consciousness and more memories. Memories, as we saw, that apparently could become either lost or diluted (since cloned Emily needed kid Emily's memory of walking with their mother).

If that's the case it spoke to the loss of emotions and connectability that occurred with so many clonings. As I've always come to understand the theory of cloning though, you don't really get the original person (the movie Advantageous is good for an example of this, it's on Netflix), but they were downloading consciousness so I guess, initially at least, it was supposed to be more authentic. The more streamlined it became though, the less human it was.