Writers hate atheism


I don't know why they would include these lines unless they're trying to pander to believers.

"God there is no god"
"There is nothing a man cannot do, once he accepts the fact that there is no god"

Okay??? So I guess we just stopped following the rules of the law and just start pillaging, raping, and destroying villages now.


These lines are unnecessary. Bad movie
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it's a freaking movie for $#!$% sake!

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A lot of terrible people do believe this but they're usually theists who still believe in God, even if they personally have "given up on him." The writer could've simply been making a comment about those types of people.

Regardless, any real atheist you talk to will tell you that things like "not being a complete monster who chains people up in his basement" is reward enough for them. And for the record, I'm not an atheist, though many of my closest friends etc., etc.

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He contradict himself just seconds after he speak these words anyway stating that he is not a rapist, i mean if there is no god and there is nothing a man cannot do once he accept this fact, why would he care about being a rapist or not?

He go as far as using homemade artificial insimination method to avoid having to rape theses women, of course its still rape but you get the idea.

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I don't know why they would include these lines unless they're trying to pander to believers.

"God there is no god"
"There is nothing a man cannot do, once he accepts the fact that there is no god"

Okay??? So I guess we just stopped following the rules of the law and just start pillaging, raping, and destroying villages now.


Huh? Are you saying basic laws are a Christian thing?

Please, please tell me you're not saying that.

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What? What are you talking about ?

I'm saying that basic laws are universal. You don't need to believe in god to know what's right and what's wrong.

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The only universal laws are laws of physics. There are many religions, for example Islam or christianity where, according to the holy text, the proper way to make a wife is, and i quote: "Wait by the side of the road and when you see one you like take her by force".

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I think you have it exactly backwards. There is a belief among many theists that its only the threat of hell and brimstone that stops people from raping, pillaging and killing with abandon. That people are not inherently moral.

If you believe that, and you decide hell and brimstone are an empty threat, then you've given yourself permission to indulge in the worst behavior because why not?

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If you believe that, and you decide hell and brimstone are an empty threat, then you've given yourself permission to indulge in the worst behavior because why not?
Because people have morals regardless if they believe in hell or not. Sorry but religion doesn't own morals.

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Hey man, what part of "if you believe that" did you fail to understand?

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Writers hate atheism

On the contrary! The very line that "There is nothing [bad, evil, etc] a man cannot do, once he accepts the fact that there is no god" is an argument for the belief in "God", ie goodness. Because what it's saying is that if you don't believe in God, you will do all sorts of evil deeds, which is a propagation for religion.


True Self is righteous. It's a conspiracy to portray Man as a savage that needs taming and policing.

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On the contrary!

You do realize that you proved OP's point, don't you?

That the writers suggest(?) athetist are capable of doing this but a religious person wouldn't in fear of God (BS). So in that point, it can be seen as anti-atheism and pro-religion.

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You do realize that you proved OP's point, don't you?

I do now :)
I must have misread the title and misunderstood the text.
Many thanks for helping me realize this.


True Self is righteous. It's a conspiracy to portray Man as a savage that needs taming and policing.

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None of that is anti-atheist.

Morals are not something that any one religion owns. Stone tablets with rules are not the only things stopping the world from devolving into chaos and murder. Morality is a mix of a lot of things that don't depend on belief in God.

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I don't even know how to respond to this lol. Did you not see the movie or heard his lines? He said basically... if you don't believe in god, you basically don't follow any rules.

I suggest you re-read your reply again. I think you're confused.

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He said basically... if you don't believe in god, you basically don't follow any rules.


True. From a very quick analysis, he is basically telling the girl that he killed her friends and is kidnapping her because he doesnt believe in God. You could interpret that as "he is bad because he is an atheist".

I think the real answer is deeper than that though. His actions and words seem like those of a theist who is disallusioned and angry, not those of an atheist.

I think its safe to say that the blind guy was religious at one point in his life. Someone who was born atheist wouldnt care to mention God randomly in a situation like that. His statement also implies that he used to accept that there was a God, but no longer does.

Look at the blind guy's life. He lost his sight in the war. He lost his daughter to an unfortunate accident. Whoever birthed his daughter is either dead or estranged from him. He is living in a miserable part of Detroit alone in the dark with nothing to entertain himself other than rewatching home videos of his dead daughter. This guy has a lot to be upset about in life.

Most people dont "turn atheist" because they are angry about things in life. They do so because they decide that they don't believe in God and can't convince themselves to do so. This guy seems like someone who has lost their faith and is angry at God and doesnt want to believe in him anymore.

Think about his actions. He kidnapped that girl. That is the action of someone who is upset and is trying to even things out in life for himself. He wants revenge and redemption for the suffering that he has endured. He thinks that the girl owes him a child for the one he lost. Those are not the actions of someone who doesnt believe in religion and is just doing stuff because there is no God watching. These are the actions of someone who believes in a supernatural order of morality and balance and doesnt understand why it is unbalanced in his life.

I dont think that this guy is meant to be pro-religion or pro-atheism. I think hes just meant to be an angry mean guy with a lot of unresolved issues.

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I understand, but of course the christians will say "see, atheists are evil because they can do whatever they want because they think there's no god" So i concluded that this movie, not the character, is pro christian.
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Sure, but you can just as easily say that Christians are only good because they have to be, and that if there wasnt a God, they would all be bad. Good atheists are good because they want to be good, but good christians are good because they have to be.

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Those horrible things are more the result of religion---NOT atheism---but most religious people are in denial about the truth.They can't handle it.

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