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To the people defending the thieves.....


To the people defending the thieves,....you realize that they had broken in and entered someone else's property .....with a loaded weapon....right? That poor blind man was in danger of three potentially dangerous people potentially killing him in his home. You must not understand what trespassing with a loaded gun really means. And he was blind. He needed to do whatever he could to defend himself. I don't support him for locking that girl in his basement, who killed his daughter by the way, but beyond that, his behavior was justified.

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What about the girl thief? She was trying to take her little sister out of an abused home.. Hardly, a selfish reason. She may have went about it wrong and I'm not saying she is a saint. But, she had the best of intentions.

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So get off your ass and find a good job, and work toward improving your situation rather than trying to rob a blind guy. Her situation doesn't justify robbing a dude.


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Ah the good old poor are just too lazy to be rich argument.

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What? Are you justifying being a criminal? Well, guess what, she's not the only one going through hard times. Some people have morals to not resort to steal people.

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Maybe Obamacare killed the economy and she can't find any job?

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Who gave you that idea, Breitbart?

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No. CNN.

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No. Im saying that if US had at least basic social programmes she would not have needed to become a criminal to begin with.

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That doesn't excuse what she did. Sure, she's a sympathetic character but I don't think you can defend her actions at all.

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Rocky was sick of living poor in Detroit and wanted out. She felt bad for her sister and wanted to bring her along, but that definitely wasnt her primary motivation. If it was, why would she be going to California? A smart decision would be to go somewhere boring with stable jobs and low cost of living and try to build a new life, not to go to the state with one of the highest costs of living.

If things were bad, she could have bailed if she was old enough, and called DCS to get her sister out of there. She had no justification to rob people.

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"What about the girl thief? She was trying to take her little sister out of an abused home.. Hardly, a selfish reason. She may have went about it wrong and I'm not saying she is a saint. But, she had the best of intentions."

lmao ^^

That is not a good defense for that girl. I saw another post say the old man was just sitting on the money and not using it, and so the money went to a better cause (to Jane Levy and her sister).

You've got to be kidding! That does not give anyone the right to rob someone's home! Ever!!

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Wow haha, that is the stupidest thing I have ever read about the money being used for "a better cause" lol.

And yes, that is not a good reason to break into someones home and rob them under any circumstances.

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Honestly to me she was the most evil character when money got shot she had no care in the world and went to cry to Alex to get help when he told them it was a bad idea from the beginning but she just brushes him off. she's scared till she's the old man open hi safe with all the money then she magicallyforgets that money her bf wad just murdered in front of her eyes. when they find the girl in the basement she's all for helping her but as soon as she's put in the same position she cries and lies how if he just let's her go she'll forget about everything but as soon as she is released you can tell she's disingenuous to what she previously stated. There's plenty of moments in the movie where they could escape but she's all like what about the money the money is more important. Like when they capture him in the basement she's supposedly disgusted with what he's Donne but she's like fuck that id rather have the money than get proper justice for what this man has done. She's inherently selfish and used Alex to death literally who was such a simp/ nice guy that he had so many chances to escape but always went back to try and save her. So yea at the end I was rooting for her to take the other girls spot.

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*beep* them all, I wanted them all dead. Anyone who has their home broken into would understand.

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I agree. There were no likeable characters here. The blind man was so blinded by his loss that he kidnaps, bounds and gags, and impregnates the girl who killed his daughter. The thieves were so blinded by greed they felt justified in robbing and terrorizing a blind man.

It was a good movie, but I had no emotional investment in any of the characters. Initially, I did with the blind man but that soon changed.

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The only acceptable outcome to this movie is all of them dead.

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Agreed. He should've got away with killing them all.

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But, the old man is a sick psycho. He had a woman chained up in his basement and he raped her then he fried to rape Rocky. I was for him in the beginning but when I saw the woman chained up in the basement. I said the old man needs to die and that awful dog of his too.

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He had a woman chained up in his basement and he raped her


wrong...he never actually raped her...he said that she agreed to have his child if he promised to let her go after nine months, so she did agree to have sex and have his child...so he sure is guilty of kidnapping but not to rape.

~If the realistic details fails, the movie fails~

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Impregnating a women against her will is rape m8.
we don't even know if she agreed to it, Anyway is being black mailed with your life really consent? she was abducted and chained up think about it.. She didn't want to be there, she was begging them for help when they stumbled upon her and she tried to escape, It was rape idiot.

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You're an imbecile tjc.

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If you've got nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all.

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If this were a real life situation I would say that everybody had some wrongs to answer for. The thieves broke into the blind man's house thinking he would be an easy victim. They were wrong. Dead wrong. They got what was coming to them. If the blind man had killed every last one of them they would have deserved it. Yes, the young woman had legitimate reasons for wanting money, but what she did was wrong. If she had died it's the price she would have payed for her choices. Now the blind man was wrong too. You cannot chain a young woman up in your basement, violate her with kitchen utensils, impregnate her, and then act like it's all okay because she accicentally killed your daughter. That's absolutely crazy. I felt sorry for him, but he had some screws loose long before those thieves broke in.

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All decent people will agree that thieving is wrong... but the punishment has to fit the crime.

Does being fired from your job befit being caught stealing a biro from work? A reprimand yes, dismissal no.

Likewise, does ending up in a morgue - after being murdered in cold blood - befit someone breaking into your home and getting their 'just desserts'? Of course not. Prison yes. Death no.

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Blade101167: I understand your points, but right and wrong don't really play into the situation when you are in it. If you are alone in your house and somebody breaks into your house how do you know what the intruder is capable of? Maybe they just want to rob you. Maybe they want to kill you. You don't know and many a thief HAS wound up in the morgue even though they just wanted to rob the place. You take your life in your hands when you do these things.

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Yup. The intruders needed to be snuffed out as quickly as possible. The one dolt was killed early on, which was good. The other two got lucky because he couldn't find them right away.

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Thank you! Why is this so hard for some to understand? You are taking your life into your own hands when you break into someone's home. Plenty of ppl have shot and killed burglars and have NOT been criminally charged.

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I think there is a distinction to be made between justified and deserved when it comes to the thieves. the old man was justified in using lethal force against all three of them , but they didn't deserve to die... well maybe the first guy, he was the one who brought and drew the gun. there are many times people can be justified in using lethal force but the person killed didn't deserve to die, probably the classic situation would be war. a soldier is justified in killing an enemy combatant but a soldier killed in battle doesn't deserve to die.

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I think there is a distinction to be made between justified and deserved when it comes to the thieves. the old man was justified in using lethal force against all three of them , but they didn't deserve to die... well maybe the first guy, he was the one who brought and drew the gun. there are many times people can be justified in using lethal force but the person killed didn't deserve to die, probably the classic situation would be war. a soldier is justified in killing an enemy combatant but a soldier killed in battle doesn't deserve to die.


Excellent post. Though the robbers surely are more deserving of whatever happens to them than a soldier.

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Oh god of course no, no sane person would think that his actions are justified. Why the fuck do you even need to go there? I figure that most people who answered here didn't imply that he did the right thing.

I think (hope) that those who answered simply meant that what they did was wrong, and if they wouldn't had done it, they wouldn't have this happening to them. Actions come with consequences, and consequences don't always fit with the crime, unfortunately. In a perfect world... That would work that way, but we all know we don't live there.

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Kidnapping and impregnating some young girl is worse than B&E even with a loaded weapon. Please don't breed.

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The people on this board are insane, and probably perverted, if they can't see the old man's crimes >>>>> burgling kids. I have more of a problem with the kids' stupidity than their actual crime.

"what is your major malfunction numbnuts?!!"

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...and what do you think they would have done to the old man if the old man hadn´t pulled the trigger on "Money"?
Don´t be such a weak pu**y - they knew very well what could potentially happen when walking into that house.

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I don't think they would have killed him. A gun is just something you use for effect.

I watched the interview with the Director and Rocky on YouTube. They both said even though the thieves are doing wrong we are supposed to root for them and not the old man because his crimes are clearly worse and yes Rocky is supposed to be the heroine of the movie. To explain the ending The reason the old man doesn't tell on Rocky is because he is going to go after her in the sequel. Whether he kills her or not we will have to wait and see.

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Alex and Rocky probably wouldn't have killed him, but I kinda felt they left it ambiguous if Money would have.

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"They both said even though the thieves are doing wrong we are supposed to root for them and not the old man because his crimes are clearly worse and yes Rocky is supposed to be the heroine of the movie."

You know your movie failed big time when you need to go public and clarify an aspect like that. I'm not supposed to feel confused about who's supposed to be a hero, only to find out that the "hero" is an idiotic criminal.

The other time that this happened to me was with The Devil's Rejects. To this day I'm still not sure if Rob Zombie wanted us to root for any of the characters or simply wanted us to hate them all. And unfortunately for me, if I can't rely to any character in a movie, I just can't appreciate it because characters are one of the majors elements which drive a movie.

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"Kidnapping and impregnating some young girl is worse than B&E even with a loaded weapon."

Yeah... So? That's just common sense.

However, it doesn't make their action right. They knew, indeed, that breaking into someone's house (especially in usa where anyone can have a firearm home) comes with potential risks and consequences. That's it.

Of course, his response was irrational and, even prior to that, he had done terrible thins. By the end of the day, he's the worse of the two sides.

But worse doesn't mean that their action becomes magically good.

Your logic would really flaw if put into a realife situation. Let's pretend there is a X guy (who you don't know anything about), and that the said Mr.X murdered someone in cold blood. Horrendous crime, nothing redeemable. This mysterious fella has a brand new car, one he bought with his money. And then, there's you, who randomly walk, spot the car (without even knowing who's car it is) and all you think is "this rich fuck can afford it and I can't, let's burn it". So you decide to burn the car, despite the fact that what you do is called vandalism and is highly illegal. You decide to do it anyways. Now, we can't rely on the fact that you did the right thing and punished a murderer because as you had seen it was pure hateful and envious crime. You were not aware of the guy's background so the idea of doing good wasn't even in your deepest mind.

So now... Is your crime right because the X person (whose's personal property had been destroyed by you because of your anger issues) coincidentally happened to be a murderer?

If you say that "yes" it would justify your crime, then you're an idiot who's not ready for the real world.

"Please don't breed."

You can follow that advice as well. With a few lines you stroke me as a bitter dumbass.

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With only being line 30 minutes in to the movie, I can say I am glad that the dickhead tough guy went like a crying little bitch. The other dude has an amazingly punchable face so here's to hoping he's on deck for worm food.

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Yes OP, we're WELL-aware that the thieves were wrong. But we shouldn't want them dead, esp not by a criminal who hurt another innocent woman.

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You´re right. I was honestly wishing for Rocky to die too. It´s so pathetic. She knew what she could potentially walk into when they broke into the house. No mercy from my side

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