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Endgame Final B.O. Predictions


Domestic: $850,517,652
Foreign: $1,897,757,010
Worldwide: $2,748,274,662

Just $40 million shy of Avatar.

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820 million domestic

2.7 billion ww

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I'm going to see it again this week, so add $10 to your totals.

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Ha!

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I've already accounted for it. And if you decide to see it again after that or not I've accounted for that as well :)

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This film started out front loaded. That is why it made so much money.

But I just don’t see much rewatchability. Don’t get me wrong, it was great. But I just can’t see myself watching it many times over. It is just a conclusion to several movies.

In contrast, I saw Avatar five times in the theater and bought the blue ray. I enjoy it more because it is a complete film.

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It’s made so much money for a number of reasons.

One of the biggest reasons is people (everyone from hardcore fans to the casuals) actually liked it. A lot. That’s right, it lived up to the hype in the eyes of... the majority. Started out front loaded? Perhaps. Nonetheless a film, including a highly anticipated one, doesn’t end up making 2.6 billion by its fourth weekend because it STARTED out front loaded. If that were the case, more studios would expect to make billions if they were to release their most buzzed about movies like Disney did with Endgame.

But I bet you know before it was released anywhere, Endgame had amazingly crushed every ticket pre-sales record out there. Yet, surprising so many it had an insanely monumental $350+ million domestic opening that no analyst saw coming even after it looked like there was a strong chance Endgame was going to open with $300 mil domestically. So clearly, Endgame’s weekend opening was a massive victory in every way.

Its rewatchability factor? Endgame may not be rewatchable to you (u saw much more appeal in Avatar which, funnily enough, in spite of the huge buzz it garnered it ultimately didn’t leave any mark on pop culture and today there’s no shortage of people that find its special effects to be the only great thing about it), but that certainly wasn’t the case for so many who went to see this film. If Endgame has become the only film to come THAT close to Avatar, then it must be doing so for a bunch of good reasons other than front loaded-ness (I’ll be going for a fifth viewing myself this upcoming week). Moreover, regardless of the way Endgame was built up as an epic conclusion to a 22 film arc, at the end of the day a film with as much hype as this one wouldn’t have performed this well if it didn’t absolutely deliver. There’s a reason some thought there was a 50/50 chance this was going to pass the previous Avengers.

But lo and behold, Endgame turned out to be a widely praised film that, as with Infinity War, became a definitive cultural event. Some may be as unimpressed as you, but make no mistake about it... millions more feel differently and have continued to go see this remarkable film. Inflation? Oh, I know the adjusted for inflation crowd LOVES to downplay the success of modern blockbusters. Still, any way you slice it what AE accomplished is staggering. I do not see any film in the foreseeable future coming close to doing what Endgame did. But going back to inflation...I find it curious that those who love to bring up today’s ticket prices rarely bring up the fact that everything from Gone With the Wind to Titanic/Avatar didn’t exactly reach their box office totals in their initial runs (e.g., it took GWTW nearly 60 damn years to make what it has). A ha! That’s a discussion for another day, though.

And whether in the end Endgame passes Avatar or not (a film which for the record was a December release and it comfortably spent many months in theaters with no real competition for a while... unlike its new competitor), this film was by all means a phenomenal success. The previous films in the franchise notwithstanding, a film that’s being considered extremely satisfying and a great achievement (purely as a film) by most viewers simply deserves its success. Endgame’s critical praise & awesome audience scores... and its pop culture dominance... doesn’t lie.

On a side note, while I guess Avatar has its dedicated fanbase, I have zero doubt Endgame, unlike Cameron’s technical beauty, will be in the minds of way more people a decade from now — that’ll be when the third Avatar will *probably* come out lol — and it won’t be because of its large box office.

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There is so much verbal goodness in your post!! You have earned a Thumbs Up!!

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It made 76m this weekend....so another 170m seems possilbe. Definitely needs to start having some softer drops to achieve that though.

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I see it having another 45-50m in the us and a further 75-80m international

giving us roughly
815-820m
1915-1920m
2730-2740m total

So my guess is that itll fall just short of taking the number one spot. Just goes to show what a incredible sum of money Avatar made and if Endgame doesnt take its crown it'll stand as the top movie for some time.

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I wasn't far off if not counting the re-release.

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EG is actually over performing on its re-release with Deadline reporting a 5 to 6 Million Weekend....all the major sites predicting 3 million...

all in all, The re-release might result in about 15 M ish....

putting EG just a short 20 M or so behind Avatar.

honestly at this point, I think its safe to assume EG is in fact destined to be the highest grossing film of all time...only it might not happen for another 4 or 5 years...

I could easily see Disney Re-Releasing EG before The Next Avengers movie in 4 or 5 years as a build up to the New/Next Avengers film and again adding A New Post credit scene that leads/builds to the next Avengers film....

With The MCU and The continuity and The way theaters and audiences like to do marathons....EG will get another re-release similar to Avatars Years after....and It Will certainty net the additional 20 M+ it will need to take over Avatar....

All in all....Disney Will have The Highest Gross Film of all time(Wink*Queen*Wink)

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The re-release will make it a snap (see what I did there). But overall I think my prediction was pretty good if you don't count the re-release which I had no idea was going to be a thing when I made the prediction.

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It wouldn't surprise me to see a re-release of Avatar a couple of months before the first sequel.

I really hope Endgame beats it.

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BOMojo just broke. Reporting foreign $1.9m. Divide by 1000?

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel2019.htm

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It has been broken for a while today. During updating there is always a glitch of some sort.

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Just $27 million shy of Avatar. $2,761.3m. $7m domestic over last week.

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It. Is. Inevitable.

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[–] ultravioletx (1975) 14 days ago
It. Is. Inevitable.
Avatar...…..2,788.0
Avengers...2,780.8

It does look very much like a fait de accompli.

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EG now guaranteed to top Avatar...


Quite Stunning...

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Awesome, I hated Avatar , End Game is worthy of this accolade, it was brilliant

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Guaranteed? It still needs another 7m. Within grasp yes, but not guaranteed.

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[–] alienzen (369) 3 minutes ago
Guaranteed? It still needs another 7m. Within grasp yes, but not guaranteed.
It is indeed going to be quite close. Here are some quick numbers:

Day 77 for All films:...…..Day 133 All Films
Avengers Domestic:...…..Avengers Domestic
============……….===========
Avengers 1: $614...…….$623
Avengers 2: $455...…….$459
Avengers 3: $675...…….$678
Avengers 4: $849...…….$??? Needs another $8 Million domestic as International is DONE!

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International is NOT DONE....

Its still bringing in 1 to 2 million a week overseas...

Its not going to be CLOSE....

as of right now there is ZERO chance EG doesnt top Avatar....

Now If you want to claim Its going to be close to Avatar in box office once it passes, I completely agree, EG could very well ONLY top Avatar by 1 or 2 Million...

But With only 7.2 M left to go and nearly a month left before its released on Home Media....There is officially NO CHANCE EG wont top Avatar....

and the reason why I say NO CHANCE is because, With EG being this close, If for some reason it was going to come up short, Disney would just add something to put it over the top....

I think EG Will make it on its own....I dont think anything extra Will be needed, But again they reason why I'm SO SURE is, at Most now, EG might come up 2 Million Short, and Disney could make that up in 1 weekend with adding just 1 extra scene to the film....

once your this close...Its just Done...

when Disney 1st did the re-release, EG was around 40 Million shy...

at that point its very hard to tell because, Had The re-release only resulted in say another 10 Million....

theres not much Disney could do to get additional 30 Million....

But now, with EG within 7.2 M......

Its got another month to play, which will either get it over or within 2 Million.....again at the point, Disney will get it over the top with additional footage....

Personally though I think EG Will have really no trouble getting thier on its own...

EG is still bringing in Money Overseas...

I could see another 3 to 5 Million domestically

and 5 M+ overseas

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Just going by the boxofficemojo tracking for A:E. July 5/7 had roughly 1.5 million and I would guess there would be a 50% drop for this week so it was my gross estimate that International numbers for A:E were basically done. Also the actual International numbers really lag while the estimates tend to be quite early.

$5 million more International would be outstanding based on the totals todate!

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EG made almost 900K this weekend overseas

so its having slight Sub 50% holds overseas

5 Million + was probably too High...a better number would be maybe 3.5 to 4 Million more overseas

regardless ITS 1 MILLION % guaranteed

Disney Will not let it Miss...

EG comes out on Digital release on August 13th....

If It looks like its going to come up short...

The Week of Aug 13th or the week before...Disney will do a Mini re-release and add to like 500 More theaters with an additional Scene to get it over the top...

Disneys not going to let it miss by 1 or 2 Million...

If it was 10 or 15 Million short...Then ya....But 1 or 2 million is too close and too ease to make up

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Disney Will not let it Miss...

EG comes out on Digital release on August 13th....

If It looks like its going to come up short...

The Week of Aug 13th or the week before...Disney will do a Mini re-release and add to like 500 More theaters with an additional Scene to get it over the top...

Disney's not going to let it miss by 1 or 2 Million...

If it was 10 or 15 Million short...Then ya....But 1 or 2 million is too close and too ease to make up
Just as when Black Panther got awfully close to $700 Million domestic Disney got theaters to up the showings to attract more eyes. It was a tactical decision for a goal that was more or less non-eventful for BP. I agree with you in that Marvel/Disney would push more screens into play in order to get those last few dollars to meet, match and exceed Avatar. I do contend that it will only happen stateside; as even with the re-release Marvel saw limited numbers for International post re-release. I disagree they would add a new scene. That would destroy any goodwill from an excited audience waiting for home media.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddd just as I typed that the International numbers for A:E for the following weekend (July 12-14th) landed and the number before the site went down was $1.1 Million. So the difference is now just $6.8 Million.

As you stated, % international change from weekend to weekend was low, down just 15% with Portugal and South Africa expanding screens being the reason. Didn't see THAT coming.

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Where are you getting these numbers?

Endgame made 5 million internationally in the last week. I can't imagine that it only made 900k of that at the weekend.

As of 7th of July Endgame had 1924.6 million

https://web.archive.org/web/20190714111506/https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=marvel2019.htm

as of of 14th of Jult Endgame has 1929.6 million.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=marvel2019.htm

Unless my maths is really off, that makes 5 million in the last week.

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Endgame made 5 million internationally in the last week. I can't imagine that it only made 900k of that at the weekend.

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EG Made a total of 2.8 Million+ Globally this weekend...

2.1 M of that was domestically

therefor, around 900 K came from overseas....

Yes EG did make around 5 M overseas last week...

This week it should make around 2 to 2.5 M....The 900 K is ONLY the weekend, It still has 5 more days to pick up another 1.5 M....

The 5 Million your quoting from Last Week, was The whole 7 day week....not just the weekend....

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That's literally what I just wrote Billly. Films typically make 70% of their weekly box office at the weekend. It seems unlikely that endgame made only 18% of its weekly box office at the weekend. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE NUMBERS.

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WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE NUMBERS.


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for this weekend(July 12 through the 14th)EG Made a total of 2.8 Million+ Globally

2.1 M of that was domestically

therefor, around 900 K came from overseas....

I have no idea how I could make it any clear.

EG made 900 K this weekend.

I expect it to make another 1.5 to 2 Million in The next 5 days bringing Its 7 day overseas total to around 2 to 2.5 M for THIS WEEK....


The 5 million you are talking about is FROM Last Week/weekend...

If I remember right EG made around 2.1 Million Last Weekend overseas and Then another 3 Million through the week bringing its 7 day total last week to around 5 Million....


The numbers I'm quoting now Is A New week, Not part of The 5 Million from last week...


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Billy, do you not understand what the word "where" means? I asked you WHERE you got the numbers. I didn't ask you to repeat the same numbers still without a source.

I posted you links that show that Endgame made 5 million overseas in 7 days, from 8th of July to 14th of July. That does not include the weekend from the 5th of July to the 7th of July.

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this is one of the weirdest convos I've ever had...

There are multi places that has these numbers

But here--https://variety.com/2019/film/box-office/avenger-endgame-nears-avatar-box-office-record-1203267032/

here is an article reporting EG made 2.8 Million dollars globally this weekend...

If you check any of the box office sites including Mojo,bo.com or Deadline....You Will see EG made 2.1 M domestically this weekend....


therefor If EG made 2.8 Million+ Globally, and 2.1 Million of that came from its domestic gross....

Then EG made around 800 to 900 K overseas this weekend

I'm not trying to be mean, but if you dont understand this, Theres no sense in this going any further...just dont respond back...I truly cant be any clearer

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This is nowhere near the weirdest conversation you have had. I have read a few of your conversations on here.

If it's weird, it's because you are making it weird by being weird and obtuse. I know Endgame made 2.1M at the US box office last weekend. At no point have I disputed that.

Somehow you take Variety as gospel. Since Engdame made 5m overseas in the last week, the 2.8 million "globally" in the article was obviously a typo, and they meant overseas. 5m for the entire week, and 2.8m for the weekend sounds exactly right.

look at the link this time Billy, and let your brain process the numbers.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190713000953/https://www.boxofficemojo.com/

Endgame had 2774.1m before the weekend, and by Sunday had 2781.6m .

That is a 7.5m jump. Now the overseas numbers are only updated every Sunday, so that includes the weekday numbers. Obviously it made much more than 900k overseas at the weekend. Box Office Mojo is a site devoted to numbers. Variety is a gossip magazine.

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Where did you get this from? it made 5 million internationally in the last week.

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Guaranteed? It still needs another 7m. Within grasp yes, but not guaranteed.


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100% guaranteed....

IMO it will get thier on its own while playing for another Month....

But even if it comes up short, Its going to be within 2 Million of Avatar....at that point Disney Will step in and Add an extra scene and Will easily result in an additional few Million to get it over the top....

The key here is how CLOSE it is....not if it can actually do it....with another month to play, EG is either going to make it or get close...

but because Its going to be so Extremely close if it falls short, theres no way Disney Will Let it Miss....

If EG was at say 20 Million shy, and Potentially was going to be 10 to 12 Million dollars short....I'd say NO WAY....because theres not much Disney could do to make up another 12 Million with another re-release....

But EG Will either TOP IT or be within 2 M.....and at that Point, Disney could easily make that 2 Million it needs in 1 Weekend by adding 1 extra scene to the film....

Its Simply TOO CLOSE now for Disney to let it fall short....

1 MILLION % guaranteed......EG Will top Avatar and be the highest grossing movie of all time by this time next month

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It won't beat Avatar as you forget to take inflation into account.

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You can't count inflation because then no movie would beat movies like Gone With the Wind which, if adjusted for inflation, is somewhere around $3 billion.

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Then what is the point of comparison? Also: there are more people alive now than in 2009.

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It gives movies something to shoot for.

You could ask the same question even if we did account for inflation. Whats the point of comparison? "That movie still didn't make as much money as Gone With The Wind." A movie with how many re-releases? Its an impossible task. The reason they don't account for inflation is to give new movies a chance to have their heyday. The old movies already had theirs.

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Seems like a leading cause of failure to learn from history. I think you are right.

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if disney wants endgame to pass avatar, at this point they can make it happen.
if it doesn't make it in the next 3-4 weeks of release (which i think it almost certainly will), they can give it another little push into drive-ins (they still exist!) and 2nd run theatres at the end of the summer.

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