If Thor went for Thanos' head
...with that ax, would that have killed him? Or with the five gems Thanos could have survived that?
shareI think so
The gems don't heal people
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If they didn’t want him to return for Avengers 4, then yes. With the ax in his chest, Thanos looked like he was pretty much done for right before he snapped his fingers. If not for the Gems, he would have been a goner. So let’s say Thor did go for the head, it’s likely the hit would have killed the Mad Titan instantly; of what use would the Stones be for him if he couldn’t use them? IF it didn’t as a result of the Gem’s powers, then I can see Thanos making a last effort to snap his fingers or possibly reverse time. So, would going for the head make a difference anyway? Well Stones aside, I’m sure the hit would’ve been way more destructive to Thanos no matter how powerful he was (of course he knew that).
shareHe should've went for his arm. Kinda hard to snap with a severed arm.
shareToo bad Thor didn't learn from Loki, now that brother aimed at the right place.
shareStarlord was the one with the Ray gun he wasn't using, if he'd just blown Thanos's arm off instead of going for the bitchslap it's all have been over.
Highly doubt that little gun had the power to do that if all the point blank direct hits from Iron Man to that point couldn't even cause a scrape. Not to mention all the other blows he'd survived unscathed.
shareAgreed, Thanos took multiple hits from Starlord's blasters to no effect whatsoever
I'm sorta of the opinion that Thor blew it - he wanted to get up close & personal, so he went for the chest on purpose
Bet he won't make THAT mistake in Avengers 4
If Dr. Strange had created a portal around Thanos' arm and cut it off when they had him immobilized, we wouldn't have to entertain this hypothetical.
shareIf he could, but nothing we've seen indicates that's a possibility. And even if he were able to do that to someone, it's doubtful it would work on someone as strong as Thanos, especially considering he had 4 Infinity Stones at the time.
shareI don't know who gets to decide the rules of which is more effective, a magic portal or a weapon forged in the sun. But clearly, there's plenty to indicate that it was possible and we know Thanos' skin could be pierced. It happened twice in the film and when Gamora stabbed him in the neck (even if it was an illusion) she obviously thought a small weapon like that could do the trick.
And even if it couldn't cut his arm off, there is no reason why he didn't even try...other than, because the plot needs it to happen this way.
Why does the plot need it to happen that way? That is a meaningless statement. You could take any plot detail and say "it could have gone differently but the plot needed it to happen that way."
Just because the film doesn't spell out every thought and action on the part of every character doesn't mean they didn't consider or try something. In the same way that we accept that the heroes checked the atmosphere of whatever planet the land on before stepping outside without a spacesuit, I think we can assume that Thanos being an immensely powerful being on his own, and armed with 4 Infinity Stones, means he he's impervious to literally the first spell Dr. Strange learned at Hogwarts.
Don't be such a defensive baby about it. If Tony Stark can draw blood from Thanos by hitting him then Dr. Strange can at least attempt to cut the guys arm off with magic.
shareI politely disagree and I'm being a defensive baby? I'm just saying that you're assuming that the portals we've seen Dr. Strange open can be opened around a living creature, and if so, that Dr. Strange never tried to do that to Thanos. I'm assuming that they can't be used that way, and if they can, he likely did try and found that the Gauntlet and/or Stones have a built-in defense against such a rudimentary attack.
To think of it another way, if what you are assuming is correct, Thanos with all 6 Infinity Stones in his gauntlet is capable of destroying the entire universe with a snap of his fingers, but can be instantly defeated by any novice student of magic. Something seems off about that to me.
Thanos turned the mirror dimension into a black hole thing; hard to believe he wouldn't be able to thwart a sling ring portal
shareIn fact Strange could have done it easily, since he does it earlier in the film to one of Thanos' underlings. This issue is a major plot hole, as far as I'm concerned. It broke my suspension of disbelief during an otherwise good movie.
shareIt's like in Star Trek, they have a transporter, and often the transporters from certain species will work through shields depending on the situation. To win a battle, just beam all the bridge crew into space - done, battle over.
Yes. Or in The Last Jedi wherein a spaceship is used as a light-speed battering ram.
I've since revised my opinion on the Strange/Thanos portal thing though. It's not a plot hole. Strange said that out of all the millions of possible futures he saw, there was only one where the Avengers could win, and that future involves letting Thanos get what he wants. "Tony ... it was the only way ..."
I suppose you could play "why didn't they just ..." with any story, but that'd take the fun out of it. At a certain point, you just have to accept that, while characters might have done various things, they simply didn't. Real life is kind of like that too.
Strange makes it clear it went exactly the way it had to. Whos to say the result of cutting off Thanos' hand. Maybe he takes them more seriously as a threat,scoops up the guantlet in his remaining hand and just kills them outright instead of toying with them.
shareThanos sure seemed to think so. Storm Breaker was crafted to be the greatest weapon in in the universe.
shareBut when Thor throws it he throws it towards a massive energy blast coming from Thanos so I dont think he was aiming at anything other than the general direction.
shareCalled shot to the head with a new weapon he wasn't specialized in would have been a foolish move anyhow.
shareI simply feel like he didn't feel the need to aim for the head. He probably underestimated Thanos or overestimated the ax's power and thought it would have been unnecessary and risky.
shareOh wow I loved this ending. The fact that he didn't go for his head really made for the ending. If he had then certainly Thanos would have been dead so no poiny from a movie standpoint. I like how he achieved his goal even though people had to die, its scary to think that in reality over population is a huge problem, although I am not suggesting for a second that we need to kill anyone omg lol. But I see where he is coming from that's all. Oh god that makes me sound awful! Can't wait for the next movie! xx
shareThor killing Thanos would have been an epic ending.
shareIf that axe had struck Thanos right between the eyes he would have been dead instantly. Thor also could have missed because the head is a smaller target.
shareYes, it would have.
The weapon had the power to legitimately harm him, as seen by its effect when it struck Thanos in the chest.
Also — I doubt Thanos just felt like making a joke when he said that Thor should’ve went for the head.