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The Batman vs Superman of Marvel


I enjoyed Justice League more

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You're doing a fantastic job of bumping Captain Marvel's presence just before the release of the film for home viewing. Seems like the movie had a big impact on you. How many times did you see it in theaters?

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I didn't like either movie, but CM was much better than BvS. That isn't saying much.

Shazam is where it's at. Goddamn that was a good movie.

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Uggh. Justice League was terrible. Batman v Superman was great, better than Civil War.

Captain Marvel was pretty good. Marvel never really screws up, unlike DC.

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The Batman vs Superman of Marvel

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awful analogy....

for a Marvel film to be The "Batman vs Superman of Marvel"....The follow would need to happen....

1. The Marvel film would Need to receive Awful reviews on all Major sites
2. The Marvel film would need to be Universally Hated by The Overwhelming Majority and Gets awful Audience scores and Awful Ratings
3. The Marvel Film would need to drastically UNDER PERFORM at the box office to whats its expectations were as BvS was thought of as a Guaranteed 1 to 1.5 B dollar film
4. Kevin Feige would have to Be Immediately DEMOTED and Ultimately FIRED after "That Marvel films" release as Zack Snyder was immediately DEMOTED after BvS, which at the time Snyder was "The Godfather /Fiege of The DCEU"
5. Marvel Studios would then Need to start Wildly Interfering in Other MCU's films post Productions as a direct result of "That Marvel Films" backlash.....as WB went into full panic mode after BvS and wildly interfered in Suicide Squad and JLs Post Production in an attempt to change TONES after The disaster that was BvS
6. The Majority of all MCU films and Actors would need to be Rebooted and Recast after "That Marvel films" release.....as The Majority of The Actors in The DCEU films are being recast and The Majority of The Movies are Being rebooted.
7. The Marvel Film would Need to Feature a Plot Device that would literally go down as The single most mocked Moment in CBM history....as BvS currently has The single most mocked and made fun of moment in CBM history In "MARTHA"


Lol All in all ....There Will never be A "The Batman vs Superman of Marvel"

simply because Its truly not possible for any Studio to ever fail as Badly as WB did With BvS....

BvS truly is the biggest creative failure in Hollywood history....

I have no doubt Marvel Studios Will at some point produce a flop or an awful film....But thats all it would be....The Levels and degree at which a Marvel Flm would have to fail to be on par with BvS is truly Impossible....

sorry you didnt like CM.....I thought it was just ok...a middle of the pack MCU film for me....

but honestly I'm not sure you could have made a worse comparison if you intentionally tried than BvS...

I personally hated IM3 and IMO I think The Mandarin Twist is a close 2nd to "Martha" in BvS as The worst creative decisions in CBM history......But I still cant claim "Its The BvS of Marvel"....Because again The degree and astonishing Levels at which BvS failed is just Staggering...

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Damn...you say CM is a "middle of the pack" MCU film and "just ok" so half of the MCU's movies you would rank even lower than "just ok"?

Lol...sounds like you think it's a pretty crappy franchise on the whole. When half the films are below "just ok".

P.S.- Now..
for a film you really DID love. I remember you gushing over Aquaman a few months ago and saying you could watch it "countless times". Just curious...about how many repeat viewings have you logged at this point? Last time we spoke about this you had seen it four times.

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CAPTAIN MARVEL REPEAT VIEWS BETTER.SAW AQUAMAN A THIRD TIME YESTERDAY..ITS BORING AS SHIT.

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Oh I think CM is a better film than Aquaman, but billbrown doesn't. He said he could watch Aquaman "countless times" while I could barely make it through one viewing.

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Damn...you say CM is a "middle of the pack" MCU film and "just ok" so half of the MCU's movies you would rank even lower than "just ok"?

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first, absolutely stunned you showed your face on this board...You've been in hiding and avoiding the board like a plague since Your last ditch attempt to Troll went down in burning flames when CM topped Wonder Woman domestically after you guaranteed over 30 times It would not happen.....lol even going as far as saying "we can Huff and Puff as much as we want, CM will never top WW domestically"

truly stunned you limped back here to this board, can I ask, have you even attempted to touch this subject yet

again you disappeared without a trace the second you realized your worst nightmare was happening and CM was going to top WW....and as far as I know have never acknowledged or spoken on this subject since


Now to you Odd questions and almost Obsession with My Interest and Enjoyment with films(this is like the 5th time you've said something similar to this) I truly have no idea where your going with it or why you so interested in how much i enjoy films...

But the answer to your question is.

I enjoy 19 of the 22 MCU films .

to break it down.

IMO I consider-
The Avengers
Avengers Endgame
Avengers Infinity War
Captain America The Winter Soldier
Captain America Civil War
GOTG 1
Thor 1(I realize I'm in the minority here)
and Iron Man 1

To Be All Time Great Comics books, IMO Literally the best of the best and the best the genre's produced(along with Logan and The Dark Knight)


I then consider these MCU films to Be Fantastic, MCU films I can watch over and over again, But dont quiet consider them all timers-

Thor Ragnarok
Doctor Strange
Spider-Man Homecoming
Captain America TFA
Black Panther(barely, slightly has grown on me, I like it but still dont like it as much as the Majority)


Next, I consider these MCU films Average to Good, Middle of The road MCU films...all MCU films I enjoy, but IMO I dont think They are truly great CBMs....
Captain Marvel
Ant-Man
GOTG 2
Age Of Ultron
Iron Man 2


and Then we get to IMO the 3 MCU films That are Disappointing-

Thor 2-(Not horrible but IMO the very definition of average, I ot not rewatch this movie often)
The Incredible Hulk-(again Not terrible, But doesnt feel like an MCU film and for me its not Fun, I love the climax of the film, but overall I dont rewatch it often)
Iron Man 3-(IMO one of the worst CBMs of all time, I will never understand how this movie,idea and concept ever got past the "what if" stage....The Mandarin Twist Is an all time awful creative fail...what astonishes me most about this is Kevin Feige Greenlit this and went along with it, I would like to say Shane Black just shit the bed, But the facts are Kevin Feige signed off on The Mandarin twist and simply put HES BETTER THAN THAT...I'll never understand how a man thats responsible for such astonishing movies as Avengers 1, 3 and 4, GOTG, Cap 2, Thor 3, BB and IM actually thought The Mandarin Twist was a good idea)


So there you have it

for me I have Liked to Love 19 of the 22 MCU films

how you can come to the conclusion that it must be a "crappy franchise" is beyond me.....for me Personally, The MCU is responsible for 8 of the greatest CBMs ever made....

and another 11 that I can watch and enjoy over and over again....

I'm not exactly sure what your definition of Crappy is.....If I had to define crappy....I would look toward the now DEAD and Failed DCEU

It Produced 6 DCEU films

3 of which I personally Hated

and 2 which are among for me, the biggest disappointments of all time in BvS and JL


So Hilariously while its clear you were trying to make fun of Marvel when saying " Lol...sounds like you think it's a pretty crappy franchise on the whole. When half the films are below "just ok".

but really once again You actually just pointed out the absolutely failure of WB and DC...as More Than half of The DCEU films are consider AWFUL...







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so I ask you..

If you consider A crappy franchise to be "half the films are just ok"

does that make DCEU like The Ultimate UBER Crappy franchise since more than half the films are consider awful,brutally mocked and universally hated?

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for a film you really DID love. I remember you gushing over Aquaman a few months ago and saying you could watch it "countless times". Just curious...about how many repeat viewings have you logged at this point? Last time we spoke about this you had seen it four times.

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Stop exaggerating....

I didnt Gush over anything....

I made a list of my top 20 CBMs and had Aquaman at 16 and You asked how I could have such a bad movie that high....

and My response was simply "I dont think Aquaman is a good film or anything, I think The acting Is terrible, But I enjoyed the movie overall for its action and can rewatch it countless times in the future and enjoy it"

I'm not kidding that truly is the only comment I've made on the film...again stop exaggerating....



I've watched Aquaman a total of 3 times....I enjoy it...My opinion is exactly the same....If not for James Wan It would have been a complete Disaster....


PS...thoughts on Godzilla 2 Completely Flopping for WB after you guaranteed a 50 + M OW and somehow tried to spin Awful reviews into a Good and Positive thing?

PSS....Thought on Aladdin Heading to Massive Profit and now Officially being a Smash hit....I found it quiet fun watching you move the goal posts and continue to desperately keep trying to troll until you ultimately had to give up and admit defeat....

I loved how you created a troll thread with the LONE purpose of predicting Aladdin would flop so bad it would cost Disney Hundreds of millions of dollar and cut into a "good chuck" of EGS profit...

and Then embarrassingly you immediately had to concede and Move The Goal posts when Aladdin opened Huge....you desperately

gave up up on the film being a flop and losing Hundreds of Millions ...and Then moved the goal posts to, "Ok so its going to be a hit, but lets see how much profit it makes with a 550 M Break even point"

you played that game for a week or 2 before Ultimately Last weekend just eating the bullet, admitting defeat, and talking the walk of shame and conceding Aladdin is a Hit....


PSSS

lol now might be a good time just to face your biggest failure on these boards....

Its not going away queen....You finally found the courage to return to the CM board....

Thats Baby Step #1

You might as well take the Big step and Just take the walk of shame and Acknowledge that CM topped Wonder Woman in every possible way including domestically and that unfortunately It didnt matter How MUCH YOU Huffed and Puffed, It didnt matter how many times you said(over 30)....You couldnt stop CM from topping WW domestically...

its time to face and acknowledge your greatest failure...

Your "This aint no Wonder Woman" thread officially resulted in nothing but failure,shame and embarrassment for you....You said it yourself, Your last hope was "CM not topping WW domestically"....that was the only thing you could point to try and claim the thread wasnt a total embarrassment and failure....and finally your last ditch LIFE LINE failed you....


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@billbrown

Words mean things.

When you say a film is "just ok", that does not convey to the reader that you "liked it". When you say it was a "middle of the pack MCU film" it means that roughly half of it's films rank BELOW it. Forgive me for having a firmer grasp on the English language than you do.

Seriously, I understand where you are coming from now that you elaborated but your communicative abilities are really lacking. Simply put, you continuously use the wrong words to express your thoughts and opinions. This doesn't mean you're a bad person but it does indicate that you are in a little over your head on these boards.

As far as CM's box office is concerned, I have already conceded I undershot in my predictions on more than one occasion.

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