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How is this really empowering anyone?


Honest question. It’s a crappy ass comic book movie. That’s power?

Frank Capra said “entertainment comes first”. I agree, but here they’re leaning on phony superficial virtues as a sales pitch. This looks so incredibly formulaic it’s suckening.

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To think your panties are in a bunch because of the "HER(O)" bit in the trailer.

Its only detractors to that part of the trailer that have said its SJW and women empowering.

The rest of us know what we're going to get with a Marvel Studios movie that leads into Avengers: Endgame.

Watch it, don't watch it, the world will still turn.

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you're making a lot of assumptions.

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Then how about you make yourself absolutely crystal clear?

You could have put me straight, but chose to prevaricate.

Turns out those assumptions were right on the money ;)

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My pantries aren’t in a bunch. I’m just asking a question. You however already seem content to assumptions. Meanwhile the question remains unanswered.

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I took it as rhetorical. You could have just explained what you meant instead of waiting for an answer, you know, for the avoidance of doubt.

You chose to prevaricate again.

Diggin' a hole there fella.

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Strange that I've never seen it written as "HE(RO)"?

What would be the reaction if it was?

But yes I agree with the OP, it's weird that people are trying to proclaim this film as some kind of social justice victory ... when it's just a comic book film and doesn't help anyone in the real world at all ....?

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he·ro
[ˈhirō]

NOUN
heroes (plural noun)
a person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
"a war hero"
synonyms:
brave man · champion · man of courage · great man · man of the hour · conquering hero · victor · winner · conqueror · lionheart · warrior · paladin · knight · white hat · chevalier · star · idol · superstar · megastar · celebrity · celebutante · luminary · lion · ideal · ideal man · paragon · exemplar · shining example · perfect example · favorite · darling · knight in shining armor · knight on a white charger · beau idéal · celeb

the chief male character in a book, play, or movie, who is typically identified with good qualities, and with whom the reader is expected to sympathize.
synonyms:
male protagonist · principal male character · principal male role · lead actor · lead · leading man · leading role · male lead · star role · starring role · star part · male star
The word by default has always implied male, or maleness. It would therefore be re-dun-dant.

Please tell me that you knew that.

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Wow you think you have some kind of record 1-up win on the forums because you consulted a dictionary.

Especially since you had to go far back regarding the etymology of the word itself (without context). You are clearly being disingenuous if you think the term is not considered somewhat gender neutral in present day.

Calling c marvel a hero (as they do in the trailer) doesn't imply that they are male ...

They could have said HER(OINE), but there is no need.

Still never seen that play on words from the other angle though - since going out of your way to highlight the gender of a character is not important in my opinion. But if it is to you, then that is great and explains a lot.

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Here's a bit more for you and goes to show you that society can change positively even though ignorance remains a problem:

In its earliest use, the word hero was applied almost exclusively to a man. The corresponding word heroine was–and still is–reserved for a woman. Hero is still sometimes used to refer specifically to a man: British heroes and heroines. But hero is now considered to be a gender-neutral word, and is also increasingly used to refer to a woman: a list of American heroes; Joan of Arc, a French hero. In the sense "the principal character in a story, play, etc.," a hero is male and a heroine is female: Margaret is the novel’s heroine.

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It's great that you have to resort to arguing semantics instead of the actual point - because obviously you don't have one.

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You’ll survive.

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She's a ripoff of the true Captain Marvel anyway (Captain Mar-Vell of the Kree Imperial Militia).

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Read a comic book please.

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You first. Carol Danvers is "Ms. Marvel." Like the WNBA, she couldn't survive on her own until she sucked the DNA out of a more interesting male counterpart. In her case, namely, the real "Captain Marvel."

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By what stretch is that a ripoff? That's like saying the Vision is a ripoff because he was programmed using the then-deceased Wonder Man's brainwaves. Captain Marvel is a comic book character no different than any other. If you can't handle her gender, that's your own issue, not ours. Skip the movie and quit whining about made-up distinctions.

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You’re arguing with a guy who calls people “soyboys” and only cares about rape when black men commit t. He’s one of those obsessive racist incel guys.

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It's a woman going around beating up guys twice her size. Very powerful. An inspiration to all the women out there.

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Lol very relatable for real people

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It's a comic book movie. If people are still watching these after watching 20+ movies, I'm sure they'll continue afterwards... even if the movies continue to be as dumb.

At this point, all the marvel movies are trailers for the next film. Nothing changes, the characters don't develop, and theres always another bad guy and cameo from Loki.

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I think cats will be empowered by this movie.

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