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Women are dumb and weak.


Is that what this movie is trying to say?

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How about we are all young and wrong once? Or we all are young and dumb once? Or how about drugs are the common interest that brings lovers together -- and that means it'll never work in the long run?

GFW

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She can't get high without a man.

She can't get in trouble without a man.

She can't be punished like a man.

She's just dumb and weak.

Hope it makes sense to you?

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Maybe it will after I see it (once it hits steaming) as I'm not going to the theater with a bunch of randy tweens and adult children to see this never knowing what is is taking place in the dark. (eye roll)

Anyone, male or female, who depends on another human to require them to fulfill them, complete them, make them happy will never be.

You can't find your center in someone else.

GFW
who isn't all that old either ;)

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TMI. TL;DR. 👌

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Man I think your troll attempt just got destroyed by a friendly person lol

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I wasn't trolling, they're trolling me.

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How are they trolling you? Pull your head out of your ass.

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How about we are all young and wrong once? Or we all are young and dumb once?


while that is a true statement it doesn't apply in this film this girl is just dope whore .There's nothing she does where you could make the excuse that she's young and dumb she's just dumb for the sake of being dumb.The film maker didn't really flesh out any of these character's .Nor does she seem to be able to make any valid point's stick it's pornographic sex and drugs just for the sake of showing it .You can have a movie that focuses on a story and you can make a movie that focuses on real sex they don't work together .No one sits down to watch a porn for the story lines which are usually non existent.This film focuses on the latter while trying to incorporate story around it and comes up short .

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

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Some people have eyes and ears, they dont need to be young and stupid when they can see other young and stupid people and learn from them. Its called being young and smart.

You talk like being young and stupid is an okay thing as if you are defending what you did when you were young. Just because you were young and stupid doesnt make it okay.

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You talk like being young and stupid is


No. That is how you are interpreting it. Another person may interpret my "talk" as coming from someone who has gained a broader understanding and perspective. This requires listening as well as experience (see my second response to you).

I'm saying that, sometimes, a certain type of man will use a fictional female character as their proxy to bash all women.


I'm saying that being "young and stupid" is not some kind of unforgivable crime.
Life can be very scary for young people. I empathize.

**Have an A1 day**

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And you seem to forget that the young people in the movie were the ones being exploited by older and more experienced adults who should have known better.

**Have an A1 day**

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From alot of the reviews ive read about it the movie doesn't have any solid back bone .Its just the director projecting her negative emotions onto screen.It's sex drug violence for the sake of having sex drugs violence .So too answer your question yes it makes the point that women are weak and dumb . It's every bad stereotype of female presented and it its pointless its not done to serve any kind of purpose if your looking for a message there is none .

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

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Well, this particular character Leah has very low self-esteem. I don't see how it applies to every woman.

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Leah has no depth. This was a simplistic movie with a childish plot that's been done a hundred times before.

She has no personality or identity. Not to say there aren't women like this. You see versions of Leah in every college and city across America to one degree or another.

She wasn't raised well. She's utterly naive to the point of stupidity. Even naive people know to be cautious. She's just a jackass who uses sex as currency for things she wants.

And before you argue against that, I'm pretty certain that any 19-year-old intern who throat *beep* her boss for two bumps of coke in the middle of the day....didn't have a good female role model in their life.

And the "world" this takes place in is utterly ridiculous.

From the magazine office to the incredibly kind dope-dealing street thugs, to the evil lawyer, it's just a smattering of cliches all smashed together.

The director seems to have some talent for creating atmosphere and the DOP was fantastic, but the script was crap.

At a very base level, if it had ended differently and she'd learned some kind of lesson, there would have been some validity to the story, some purpose, but the fact that she didn't.... I dunno....what are we supposed to take away from this thing?

"There are vapid useless girls like this who just party and bang with no consideration of the repercussions of their actions, and they get away with it if they don't get caught. " ?

If anything it's simply a warning for people to stay away from toxic girls like Leah.

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I think she was naive to the point of self destruction, not stupidity

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@ amodestproposal:

Rather than respond to your post phrase-by-phrase, I will simply point out to you that, regardless of the family in which they may have been raised, girls are taught, to a greater or lesser degree, and through a million messages both explicit and implicit, that their bodies are public property/things. And to a greater or lesser degree, these messages are internalized.

You complain about the "stereotyping" of the magazine, the "incredibly kind dope-dealing street thugs" and the "evil lawyer", and then reinforce another stereotype, re: "You see versions of Leah in every college and city across America to one degree or another."

Neither the character nor the character's real-life counterparts have any "depth" for you because that would require listening to the narratives of women from their direct perspectives - and believing what they tell you.

However, your last sentence suggests that "toxic girls like Leah" be isolated and treated like social outcasts. This may serve to reinforce their feelings of worthlessness (i.e. "useless", as you so cruelly put it), and it would certainly guarantee that they are never heard.

And, by the by, Leah did express to us, the audience, her feelings of inadequacy (re: "They put up with me", in reference to her family - and the drawings she made on her photographic image reflected how she felt about herself).

Movies are not going to be willing to flesh out their female characters to deepen our understanding of them, if that's not what we're doing in real life.

**Have an A1 day**

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Leah has very low self-esteem. I don't see how it applies to every woman.


How indeed. It's not as if women and girls see variations of the OP's assertion everywhere they look, or are castigated for it when they actually notice and/or happen to take exception to those messages. It's not like women and girls are already obliged to train themselves to "ignore" 99% of those messages anyway.

Nope, nothing to see here - just another day in the disconnected vaccum where low self-esteem simply occurs spontaneously.

It's an utter mystery....


**Have an A1 day**

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damn.. i think people are taking it to some personal level when it comes to hating the main character.
i honestly thought this movie portrayed pretty well what it's like living in new york, lol.
and as far as her being weak or dumb.. like she's just living her life and learning as she goes, she's never been in a situation like that before where she knew what the outcome would be.. it's not like she had anyone there to guide her along the way. top that with a growing drug addiction, of course she's going to make bad choices.

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inuMFJ:

damn.. i think people are taking it to some personal level when it comes to hating the main character.


The individual ways in which we may identify with, and/or respond to our stories and myths, reflect how art acts to reveal our own worldview and character.

As does your own refreshingly reasonable take on this film. Thanks. :)

**Have an A1 day**

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