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What did she throw into the river?


The ending was so rushed I didn't catch it.

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We don't know, they didn't show it. Which makes sense because the big reveal at the end wouldn't work otherwise. My guess would be the cat. Theresa either killed it herself or Kate gave it some of the poisened milk. Remember the cat's missing after the funeral.

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Jon and Theresa wanted to keep the baby, so they couldn't drown him together with Kate. Had they just kept Billy, police would have wondered where he was. That's the reason for the river scene. It's a plausible explanation for police for what happened to Billy. The taxi driver saw "Fake-Kate", maybe there were other witnesses near the river.

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I also think it was the cat. Interesting film.

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Actually, I thought about that as soon as I finished that last post. It has to be that.

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But it was Theresa disguised as Kate who threw whatever into the river. In the end, it doesn't really matter what she threw in there. It just had to look realistic enough for potential witnesses who would later say that they saw "Kate" near the river. As we later learn, it was really Theresa. Don't you guys get this? ?

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lol yeah I think it was pretty clear, I expect there would have been some clothing/blankets in the river and baby never found, also I think Kates brother drowned there hence it being a spot hubby knew to find her at.
It was a little rushed at the end, but it had to be, the math game was over so it had to round up quickly.

It was a pretty good film all n all, nice and psycho, just how I like em :D

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It was the milk bottle. She knew she was being poisoned/drugged with the milk, so she threw it in the river.


LOL, wow. maybe you should watch a movie you are discussing and pay attention when the director takes the time to show you her face.

Obama got 43% of the white vote, McCain got 5% of the black vote. Who's the racist again?

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did you watch the movie?

that was her murderer wearing her coat etc,to set up her friend and she probably threw the cat

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Open your eyes next time. Milk bottle...

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Get real.

"What would you like to see on your honeymoon, Mrs. Cord?"
"Lots of lovely ceilings."

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It was clearly the cat that Theresa threw into the river. The whole thing was set up to make it look like Kate had lost her mind, killed the baby by drowning it and then killed herself. Remember that Justin didn't believe Kate when she told him what the ones below were doing - it just looked like she had gone mad and killed the baby, then herself. The pills may be a plot hole but not if they were generic sleeping tablets or headache pills that she already had - no prescription would be needed. The timing of the email would've been worked out by Jon before he left, with the baby, for Frankfurt. Yes, the police would've dragged the river but not finding the baby doesn't automatically point suspicion at Jon and Theresa - there may've been currents, the baby may've been washed up and devoured by an animal, etc. Remember that Justin did not suspect them at any point. Also, all of you have forgotten that Jon and Theresa moved back to Frankfurt - there the baby could just be registered as their own with no further deception necessary as he grows up. They would have a birth certificate with the correct name from their own stillborn son. There would also be a death certificate of course, but that would be in England. It was cleverly thought out, it wasn't 'dumb' as someone here has suggested.

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If the police had dragged the river and found the dead cat and not Billy, then I'm pretty sure the dad would have started to put two and two together and convinced them to open up an investigation. I would call that a plot hole.

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The police would certainly have dragged the river. So the absence of a dead Billy in there would seem to be major flaw in the evil couple's plan. Even if they'd kidnapped and drowned another baby for the purpose, the remains would be DNA tested, there'd be a major search for Billy and suspicion would instantly fall on the childless couple downstairs who had mysteriously acquired a son of their own.

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The reveal of the film showed it was not the baby, it was the Finnish woman impersonating her and throwing 'something' into the river.
Yes, the Police would have searched the river and found nothing - proves absolutely nothing.
Why would there be suspicion on anyone? That was kind of the point of the twists in the film? Have you seen it?

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The woman threw a white bundle in a narrow stretch of calm water, and even left the pram by the bank to mark the spot. How hard would it be for the police to recover the bundle? Having done so, and having found no Billy inside, there'd be a manhunt for the missing child.

And yes, suspicion would fall on the downstairs neighbours because (1) they had a reason to hate Billy's parents, (2) the dad knew that his wife suspected them, and (3) a short time later the neighbours were living with a baby boy the same age as Billy.

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"The woman threw a white bundle in a narrow stretch of calm water, and even left the pram by the bank to mark the spot. How hard would it be for the police to recover the bundle? Having done so, and having found no Billy inside, there'd be a manhunt for the missing child.

And yes, suspicion would fall on the downstairs neighbours because (1) they had a reason to hate Billy's parents, (2) the dad knew that his wife suspected them, "

agreed.

"and (3) a short time later the neighbours were living with a baby boy the same age as Billy. "

hahaha, yeah, that's kinda the best part. why no simply steal a baby? nobody will notice in the long run. no birth record, no id, no nothing. i am sure it will go by unnoticed forever. kindergarden, school, work ... all overrated anyways.

update (point stolen from another poster): what about doctors appointments? they could never take the kid to a doc for as long as he lives.

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What does it prove? Well it *doesn't* prove the baby is dead. The boy would've been considered missing or even missing & presumed dead until a body had been found or a thorough search had been conducted by authorities and they'd gathered enough evidence to prove there was, without a doubt, a death. They wouldn't just look at the scene, put two and two together and take it for what it is and carry on like that. Don't get me wrong, an empty pram by the water, a mom with a history of mental illness in her family found drowned in the bathtub with an empty pill bottle nearby, and the email the dad recieved - it all looks very, very bad. But authorities have to investigate all these cases anyway. The mom would've had an autopsy done, even if just for formality reasons.

Even in the most obvious cases, suicide isn't considered a "natural death", so they must look in to it and confirm what happened before coming to official conclusions. They would've noted the mom's past family history and looked in to her actions/behaviour leading up to her death and tried to piece together exactly what happened on that day. Obviously they would've interviewed the dad, and he would've told them all about her strange behaviour after the birth of their son, and her building paranoia about the neighbours and how they were out to get her/her baby. They would've had to interview the neighbours too.Would they have been able to hide all signs of the baby they stole? Maybe. Would they have been able to confirm to the authorities that it was all in the mom's head? Maybe. But then when the river was searched, maybe even drained, and no body is found, suspicions would be raised. They would've expanded the search to the entire area looking for signs of the baby. Two people are dead here, they can't just throw their hands up and conclude the body of one of them magically disappeared. At this point they likely would've wanted to go back to the neighbors and fully search their house on the off chance that maybe the mom wasn't crazy and maybe there was more to this story than originally assumed.

They showed an empty pill bottle near the bathtub where the mom died. Did the autopsy results show that the mom died from an overdose of those exact pills? Or did the tests show she'd been poisoned with something else? If the pill bottle was just for show and the neighbours poisoned her with something else, it would've been game over right there. Major hole in the story. On the other hand, if it matched up and they'd poisoned her with the pills from the bottle, there are still many questions - where did the mom acquire the pills from? Whom did she acquire them from? What did the prescription say on the bottle? How long would it've taken for the pills to have taken effect on the mom, how long would it've taken the pills to incapacitate her, and what was her actual time death? What time was the email sent? Does it all add up? What about her body - clearly they would've had to lugged her in to the tub. Does she have any marks on her, any scratches? From what I recall, when the mom first got dizzy, she stumbled around and finally hit the ground. That would've left some kind of bump or mark on her head/body and it would've been seen during the autopsy. How would that be explained? And still no sign of the baby's body, hmm. This likely would've gone down hill real fast for the neighbors.

Even if the investigation was a total failure though, and authorities ignored everything - the couple wouldn't have been able to hide the baby for very long. They'd have no birth certificate, no hospital record of the mom having gotten pregnant again and given birth to a live baby, medical histories wouldn't match if they were ever needed etc. The boy might even figure it out himself when he got older.

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"Why would there be suspicion on anyone? "

police investigate, that's what they do and they do it for exact that reason: because otherwise people would just pull such an illogical stunt and get away with murder.

and why wouldn't there be? because we all know that people are good in their heart and therefore everything is as it seems? yeah, why even have police to begin with, right?

"That was kind of the point of the twists in the film?"

well, jolly good you explained that. we would not have recognized otherwise. doesn't make it any more plausible or logical though.

"Have you seen it?"

have you every been outside?

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That's assuming the police have unlimited time and resources and are not human beings. When the case is given to them with a plausible explanation, it is unlikely that they would start digging around for unlikely explanations. Everything lined up just fine. The husband would testify to the wife's mental state, and he certainly believed she murdered their child.

When dredging the river, they may - or may not - turn up the dead cat and blankets. So long as the cat was not bundled in the blanket (easy enough for her to do), there is no reason to think the cat anything but a drowned stray. They weren't going to bring everything they found to the husband. And it is not unusual for a dredge to come up empty handed.

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The baby really had to go in the canal for this movie to work. The ending was a bit of a twee cop out.

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No, why would they think a cat in a river would automatically indicate foul play? Justin just thinks the cat has run off - he suspects nothing sinister and there's no reason for the police to link a cat's body to the baby.

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"What did she throw into the river?"

the directors dignity.

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Car

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The baby is alive,the cat is alive and so is the Billy's mother.
Nice powerful finish for those that were not thinking too much.

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It was the cat as the guy said at the end that he couldn't find the cat.

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I immediately thought it was the cat (as it had caused her so much grief) but it sounded more like a brick wrapped up in a blanket.

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