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This Doc basically proves Mexico will always be ******


As soon as any group gets strong enough to protect an area, they just do the same exact thing that the groups they displaced do. Hell, I didn't even care about the drugs, of course ANYONE will make them if it means they're sending it to the US and getting rich, but the fact that they became violent towards the people in those areas was what disappointing me.

Mexico is not going to change and it looks pretty freaking hopeless it ever will.

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It won't get better until NAFTA that cripples Mexico's economy is taken away and the war on drugs and illegalization of drug use is done away with.

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You're right, but for the wrong reason. Mexico will never get better unless their northern neighbor stops importing drugs for their spoiled weak population to poison themselves with. When Americans grow the *beep* up and start dealing with life without the crutch of drugs, things won't change.
And before I get accused of unreasonably hating America, don't worry, you're not alone. Western Europe isn't any better, the only difference is that they get their poison from other places, not Mexico. And that trade has pretty much the same effect on their source countries as yours does on Mexico.
But truthfully, people won't change, they will still do the same things, still be weak. So there's not really much to hope for.

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You have a point. But even if the US completely stopped buying drugs, Mexico would still be a mess. The culture of corruption will remain, along with crooked politicians and police, no economical middle class, people continuing to abandon the country to come to the US for financial reasons, the list is so long.

Mexico is a beautiful country with abundant natural resources. The greedy rich will continue to ruin it.

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Pretty true. Been that way since long before El Guapo.

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Again that's the thing, if you think of the US drug problem as a source of income, it can help MILLIONS of Mexicans, but instead the cartels get greedy, dumb and violent against each other and civilians caught in the middle.

So lets say tomorrow every American magically stops doing drugs. Then what?

What do all these tens of thousands of cartel members do for money now that the billions of dollars of easy money from the north has stopped? You think they just say, well that was fun, now let me go work at a factory for $2 a day? Or do they turn their full focus on the Mexican people to replace US as their new source of illegal money?

Like I said, I didn't even car the civilian militias started also selling drugs, my problem was the violence they included with it.

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I didn't see anything in the documentary about any members of the Autodefensa selling drugs or inflicting violence on innocent members of the population. Did I miss something? Was this just hinted at? Or was this information purposely left out of the documentary?

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What I remember is that the Autodefensas became infiltrated by cartel and/or government who wanted to bring them down. They began raids in homes and taking loot for themselves. In one town, the citizens were tellingPapa Smurf to get his thugs out of their town because they were no better than the cartel. It did look to me as if the Autodefenses were being purposely discredited.

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Mexico is not going to change and it looks pretty freaking hopeless it ever will.


Yeah, it does look pretty grim over there as evil has too much of a grip on Mexico.

it's pretty much going to take divine intervention at some point to change it. or some real help from the USA etc to eradicate the cartels. but even then if too many people are mostly corrupted it would likely just come back again which is why i am leaning toward divine intervention which i would imagine will eventually happen at some point to change Mexico.

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It does look hopeless. Back in the '60s there were warnings about traveling down there. A former schoolmate told of being thrown in jail and told the fine was whatever money he had on him. We would chuckle, as it was part of the stereotypical tourist experience, but it's no more a laughing matter.

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