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I sorta feel like we're not going to get season 4


which kinda sucks cause that was not a proper ending.

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I think we'll get another one, from what i've heard Showtime is up for doing a season 4, everyone in the cast is on board to do it, its just up to Lynch at this point if he wants to do it.

At the very least we need a movie to tie up all those loose ends.

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I'm actually ok with no season 4. Season 3 had some interesting moments, but there was so much nonsense overall. It seems impossible to give a fully satisfying ending to the show.

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Lynch said he'd be happy to do a season 4 but that people would have to be patient as it would be a few years till it materialised, due to the amount of time involved in creating it.

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ya but he's no spring chicken at 71years old..

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Yet he just made TPTR, and didn't rule out more, which means he believes he is capable of doing more.

Even at his age, he can still knock out a show that writers less than half his age couldn't even begin to dream of.

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im worried he will pass midproduction. im not worried about the quality or his capability.

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I'm sure he would have the foresight to let someone like Mark Frost in on what his plan for the show would be so in the event of his death, production would be able to carry on.

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ya but he's no spring chicken at 71years old..

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I think the ending was fine. If we don't get a season 4(I don't think we will btw)the ending was cool. Cooper and Laura somehow were flung into another dimension and escaped Judy. I really don't know what else can be said. Also, if there is another season, it will probably be about Cooper and Laura in another version of Twin Peaks, so I don't think there will be much explained. People will still bitch about how they want Cooper and Laura to go back to the other Twin Peaks instead of just enjoying the show.

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ending was fine? what was the ending? that all the events of twin peaks never happened??? ok then what did happen?

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Modica can, obviously, speak for himself, but I thought he rather concisely stated the answer to the the very questions you posed in the entry you replied to. Your questions indicate, to me, that you steadfastly refuse to budge from a literal sequential logic, rather than the psychological subliminal dreamstate kind of logic that Twin Peaks challenges us to employ instead. After the parade of left-brained tedious expository crime dramas that came before, I personally find it rather refreshing. You mean I have to use my own atrophied brain to come up with my own individual interpretation about what I saw?!! Thank the heavens above!

Quoting Modica:

Cooper and Laura somehow were flung into another dimension and escaped Judy.

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Except they didn't escape Judy. The last scene of Laura/Page screaming and the house turning dark after Sarah calls for her pretty much proves this.

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OK, possibly they escaped Judy, but we don't know if Sarah yelling Laura's name was just a memory that was triggered or if it was actually Judy yelling Laura's name. Laura could have screamed because she remembered the house of horrors or she screamed because Judy found them. I think it is the first, because Carrie Page obviously doesn't know who Judy is, so why would she scream if she has no memory of Judy.

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Someone here wrote the idea that independently of Laura being another person in another reality, she is still the same being that was created by the Giant. Cooper goes into that reality to find that being and take her into Laura's home [why, is not explained].

why would the house fall into darkness all of the sudden after Sarah/Judy calling Laura, if not to show that Laura/page couldn't escape her?

Cooper also realized it when asking "what year is this" [for some reason that is unexplained too].


The more I think about the ending the less sense it makes and the less I like it. :(

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I like that it doesn't make sense. Everything these days has to make sense. I like to know that life still has some mystery and in a town like Twin Peaks mystery abounds.

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I see why you say it, but we're talking about a TV/Net series. Not a self-exploratory and experimentalism art piece unbound by rules [check his other minor works such as "the alphabet" and "the grandmother" for that]. It requires a modicum of sense for the narrative to flow, given that it presents itself with all the elements that are characteristic of the medium. That means a beginning, middle and ending; character exposition and plot(s), etc.

Leaving it with an open ending is fine. But the way it was done, not only seems to undo what was previously set, it also occurred in the last episode, which denies any sense of plot exploration ["what year is this"; "Kerry Page": "Richard and Linda"; etc]; and this in turn, is followed by the image of Cooper still inside the Lodge with Laura's ghost whispering in his ear [I'm fine if it means he never left though; if it doesn't, than it becomes a borderline time waster - and I'm pretty sure many followers of the series feel this way; or there wouldn't be a petition for a Season 4].

If this occurred in a self-contained full lenght or short movie format, I would appreciate the "it doesn't need to make sense" way of thinking [because it's self contained]. This is not the case with a Series, though.

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The more I watch it, the more I read others theories and the more I think about it; the more it starts to make sense. I have a feeling that your disappointment in the show has made you resistant to trying to piece the pieces of the puzzle together. Even if there is a season 4, I have a feeling more questions will go unanswered and the ones you wanted answered will go unexplained. I think that how you approach the series makes all the difference in how you view it.

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Well, you are partially correct because as I said on the other thread I like stories to be nice and tight. It's a good exercise in story construction.

The thing is that the puzzle itself is not very interesting to me. I have to accept what Lynch and Frost presented, but it doesn't mean that as a viewer I'm satisfied with it.

I still hope for a FWWM kind of movie out of them.

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I bet in season 4 Lynch will wrap it all up with a tidy little bow (You get how ridiculous that sounds, right?).

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It doesn't sound ridiculous at all. He did it with FWWM [and pretty much every single one of his movies]. And it worked just fine.

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He did? I had no idea what had happened with Chet Desmond until I learned more about the rules Lynch was playing by (about three weeks ago) (I still loved it though). Lost Highway was a total mystery until I learned more about the rules Lynch was playing by (about three weeks ago) (I still loved it though).

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It's pretty self evident in the movie that Chet Desmond disappeared in his investigation when he found the Ring [what happened to him in the Lodge is what we never got to see]
Lost Highway is also pretty self evident that you are watching a man in prison going under a state of fugue because he can't cope with what he had done and become [a murderer] while he waits for his death.
Same is true for every of his movies. The motif is generally the same and the message is also generally the same in all of them.

But the main difference is that those are self-contained movies with a beginning a middle and an end.
TP is a series that has a beginning [Laura's death] a middle [Laura's death investigation and all the Lodge related stuff] and a less than obvious ending [because it apparently undoes what was previously set and while leaving all sorts of loose threads that undermine the first two seasons].

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Sort of, yes. Many of Lynch’s transmissions have an element that is self-evident coupled with an element that is incomprehensible or unexplained. It’s a unique method (duality?) that I really admire about Lynch’s work. I understand it’s not for everyone though.

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Don't get me wrong, I adore Lynch's body of work in it's entirety and appreciate his uniqueness.

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No past, no future. This is the waiting room.

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