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What's with all these religious piles of holy crap ?


Noah , Exodus: Gods and Kings and now this ?!
If we wanted to be brainwashed, we'd go to church.
What a waste of money ,time and talent !

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It all started because reruns of the old Exodus on network television were getting higher ratings than anything else on TV. Networks sell what people will watch. That being said, Noah was hardly a religious movie.

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When I saw the trailer at the top of the IMDB page I knew someone like you would be in here. Tell me, did you get hurt tripping all over yourself trying to get in here so fast to post your thoughts? I hope you're okay.

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Well, you must admit that the holy Willie BULLPOOP is coming on a bit strong these days. All that garbage such as 'God's Not Dead' (because he never existed), Heaven is for Real, (no, it's not), or the recently released and apparently execrable 'Saving Christmas' (Kirk Cameron putting everyone off christianity with his endless, witless lecturing). Would make anyone who has an ounce of sense sick to their stomach.

"Which it will be ready when it's READY!" Preserved Killick, Master and Commander

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Well, that's just the thing. I don't find myself interested in horror flicks like Freddy or Michael or Saw or anything like them. But, when one is coming to the theaters I don't find myself barging into the boards concerned with them and voicing my opinion about how I'm so sick of horror flicks and they should find something else to make a movie about.

When it comes to religious movies I can always count on the anti-Christs coming out of the woodwork to run the movie down. It's almost funny to know that it's going to happen before looking and seeing it blossom right before my eyes.

I guess some people, like simonmllr and you, just live for that kind of thing.

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Not at all. I live for great movies and enjoyable films and having fun at the cinema, (If we are discussing films that is. I live for a lot else besides of course). Preachy, theistic films get my goat and really irritate because they describe the bible fables as if they are fact and not a mystical, made up myth that has been used as an excuse for centuries of horrific mayhem. No one has ever gone to war or started a pogrom because they disagree over whether Freddy Kruger is more dangerous than Jason. LOL

"Which it will be ready when it's READY!" Preserved Killick, Master and Commander

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yes history is the greatest horror film of all time.

religion has been used to manipulate the masses.

religion though is not a horrible thing man is. read the bible , quran or any other religious book and you will not find a verse that tells you to go out and kill. Man is evil and films like friday the 13th or elm street do nothing but reinforce our blood lust. true or not films about religious topics do nothing but help to enliven our spiritual souls in a world ripe with materialism. the success of these spiritual movies is corelated with the rise of materialism.

what pisses me off is douchebags like you that clearly have an issue with god and religion in general coming onthese boards and jumping to conclusions about movies or shows that they refuse to watch . if i dont watch a movie i dont go commenting on its boards that i hate it. i haven't seen the latest elm street movie so i am not going to comment on it or vote on the movie because it would be hypocritical of me to do so; you should do the same

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Not trying to pick a fight here, nor trying to convert you or convince you of my own world view and cosmogony, we both know nothing we can say to each other will change anything in our certitudes. That said some stuff you wrote unsettled me and i feel compelled to mention them:

religion though is not a horrible thing man is. read the bible , quran or any other religious book and you will not find a verse that tells you to go out and kill


You can't be serious. What about all those verses in the Quran speaking of killing unbelievers and infidels? Or the verses in the Bible telling you to kill gays, or how to correctly treat your slaves?


Those are famous objections against any monotheism, i know, yet they are written black and white in their respective holy books. How can you dismiss them?

Man is evil and films like friday the 13th or elm street do nothing but reinforce our blood lust.


As for me, assuming man is evil is an aberration. Man isn't more evil than a deer or a tiger, there are only a posteriori social qualifications, approval and disapproval, but those qualifications are subject to change with time and space, which means that there are no such things as objective good and evil.
Man is capable of both at all times, he is as ready for cooperation and love as he is for murder and killing. It is human nature and it is neither good nor evil. Humans act according to their nature, just like any other being out there (what free will?).

Good and evil are strictly theistic considerations but have no inherent existence outside of the religious frame. Evil and good are actually very harmful and dangerous concepts insofar as they allow and justify senseless killing of anybody who happens to be in contradiction with the local set of taboos and interdictions, phenomenon that doesn't happen under the scope of reason and materialism, because reason, unlike theistic dogma, shows that we are one and the same. Instead of considering the other as a heathen worthy of hell-fire, reason compels to see the other as another "me" but simply under another random set of circumstances that causes him to be different but only in appearance. However, the wisdom that knowledge and science confer shows that we are immensely alike: same blood, same sufferings, same hopes and same love towards parents and offspring. Which in turns promotes empathy and true understanding, a task at which all religions have consistently failed.

As for the blood lust part, don't you think that psalms like this one promote blood thirst even more than any movie ever will?

"And I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and their daughters, and everyone shall eat the flesh of his neighbor in the siege and in the distress, with which their enemies and those who seek their life afflict them"
Jeremiah 19:9

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"Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock" Psalm 137:9

The reason why i assert that passages such as those above are more harmful than any movie will ever be is simple, a movie, whatever ideas it may contain, will never claim loudly to be the absolute truth that has to be followed and revered under the threat of eternal fire and torturing, which is quite a big difference. A movie doesn't pretend to be the word of God, nor does it aspire to reveal absolute truths.

As for me, one passage of what is supposed to be the "word of God" that incites to intolerance and barbarism is much more dangerous and harmful than a 100 movies can ever be.

true or not films about religious topics do nothing but help to enliven our spiritual souls in a world ripe with materialism. the success of these spiritual movies is corelated with the rise of materialism.


First of, where you see an "enlivenment" i see a perpetuation of archaic ideas and values that should have succumbed to a healthy change of ideas that religious dogma is simply incapable of. How can ideas such as the killing of homosexuals, the undermining of women and the condoning of slavery be considered an enlivenment? How can this be of any help to our "spiritual souls"? Not to mention that there is no such thing as a soul...

Secondly, what is wrong with materialism? I consider myself a materialist and i humbly believe that it is the only way to save humanity from the darkness of superstition and obscurantism. If it wasn't for materialism, we would still be sacrificing babies and virgins to appease this or that God of the moment, we would still be afraid of the dark fearing demons, evil spirits and ghosts.
We would still be trying to heal the sick with magic tricks, prayers and animal sacrifices. So again, what is wrong with materialism?

Materialism, as a product of science and rational thinking, identifies and highlights human nature as a whole and connects human beings in their similarities rather their dissemblances whereas religion and God(s) encourage regionalism, communitarianism and exclusion.
Moreover, materialism bears fruits that theistic belief never will: the elimination of dogmatism (I am right, you are wrong) and the concept of Evil. It creates a healthy relativism according to which everybody is right and nobody is wrong and/or everybody is wrong and nobody's right. No more moral high-ground or everlasting Truths, we are both wrong in our relative petty certitudes, let's sit down and talk about it. Let's find some middle ground where the majority of us can be happy (No dogmatism).
As for the concept of Evil, this one disappears simply because Evil is an irrational concept with no ground to support it. It is merely a social construct that inescapably keeps shifting according to random cultural changes and arbitrary variations of the geopolitical chessboard. And those alleged divine and invariable truths and values change to such an extend over time that it can only mean one thing: Good, Bad, Evil are all man-made illusions.

what pisses me off is douchebags like you that clearly have an issue with god and religion in general coming onthese boards and jumping to conclusions about movies or shows that they refuse to watch . if i dont watch a movie i dont go commenting on its boards that i hate it. i haven't seen the latest elm street movie so i am not going to comment on it or vote on the movie because it would be hypocritical of me to do so; you should do the same


While i understand your point of view, i also understand the need of atheists to thwart the religious agenda by commenting on such movies or other articles or documentaries in order to promote rational thinking against blind faith.

Think about it, how would you react if millions of people around you tried to make you believe that the world lays on the back of a giant turtle and that everything you hold true about reality and the universe is totally wrong, even though all evidence and reality itself point to the contrary?
How would you react if somebody told you that the invisible giant squirrel that created the world told him to kill and eat his son because he is handicapped and said squirrel decreed that handicapped people are evil?
Or if millions of people told you that right now there's an invisible but powerful potato beside you and it will torture you forever if you don't eat at least 1kg of salad daily and spin 11 times on yourself on the first day of every month as it is stated in some old book he found?

You may not see it, but those examples consist of the same elements as theistic belief and faith: 1. They are purposely made in a way that they become irrefutable. 2. They are purposely made to be totally impermeable to science and rational inquiry. You can't prove or disproves them, they work under the exact same flawed assumption than theism: idealism, vitalism, Platonic dualism, immateriality, you name it. In other words, that there is something that isn't reducible to matter, something more, something better.

As for me, any man reacts exactly the same when facing what he considers to be an utter fallacy that happens to be dangerous too. You wouldn't just stand idle if a group of people were trying to force beliefs and ideas upon you that you consider absurd and dangerous, you would do anything in your power to prevent those people from influencing your kids or society itself.

Not to mention that on any atheist board, video or documentary, there's always an illuminated visionary quoting Genesis and remarking how deluded and ignorant we are, that we work for Satan and will join him in hell and so forth.
How am i not to react if faced with such irrationality?

Furthermore and as mentioned above, religious apologetic movies aren't just any movies, they have a pretentiousness of objectivity and veracity, they claim to be based on God and his absolute and invariable Truth about everything, something that any other movie just doesn't do. At worst, they can only represent a mere point of view, which means that they aren't as dangerous as a movie that promotes a book filled with inaccuracies, immoral morals and backwards ideas, yet claims to be the absolute truth, don't you think? No movie contends that we should kill gays, that women are inferior and that anybody who doesn't bow down will be tortured forever. And even if some movie holds such a discourse, it would only represent an opinion, nothing more, which is obviously much better than pretending to hold God's true Truth.


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give me a verse in the bible where it says mankind should kill the gays.

infidels in the quran give me a text from the quran where it says that. i'm talking bout the quran and not about wahabi if you even know what that is.

in the bible there is the story of sadam and gomora where god destroyed both cities because they were ripe with sin . in it is the mention that part of that sin was homosexuality but it was more of a reference toward lawlessness. preachers , priests , imams interpreted certain actions of god and the angels and then told people to go kill.

my point is people that run religion may be good or evil . If you go by the word of god in any holy text it basically says you should'nt do harm unto anyone good or evil because at the end of the day god will take care of all

inform yourself before you go making stupid comments like:

"You can't be serious. What about all those verses in the Quran speaking of killing unbelievers and infidels? Or the verses in the Bible telling you to kill gays, or how to correctly treat your slaves? "

if you want to be taken seriously then give me an exact quote where god tells you the reader to kill someone before making such statements

"While i understand your point of view, i also understand the need of atheists to thwart the religious agenda by commenting on such movies or other articles or documentaries in order to promote rational thinking against blind faith."

this is not the place to make such comments. do that in online religious or scientific journals.... movies are made to entertain not inform.... tv , documentaries, even news programs are made to entertain not inform...... the problem in todays society is people are getting most information from sources that are made to entertain and are stupid enough to believe them...... this is still much better than in the past where the clergy were controlling peoples misinformation and millions died in the name of god.people in general have been and are stupid because of where they get their info.
It's a shame because with the internet at your fingertips find the truth like never before. why don't you do that and while your at it find me the verse in the bible where god tells you to kill the gays.


"Not to mention that on any atheist board, video or documentary, there's always an illuminated visionary quoting Genesis and remarking how deluded and ignorant we are, that we work for Satan and will join him in hell and so forth"

then read genesis so you can argue with him on pure fact of what it says and what it doesn't say because that idiot is wrong.....

If everyone is telling you to jump off a bridge does that mean you should jump?
same goes for reading the bible, just cause a preacher or priest tells you that something in the bible should be interpreted like this does not mean it should....read the word of god and decide for yourself.......me personally i dont believe in religion but i believe in god, jesus, moses , and mohammad. i informed myself before making that decision.


"Materialism, as a product of science and rational thinking, identifies and highlights human nature as a whole and connects human beings in their similarities rather their dissemblances whereas religion and God(s) encourage regionalism, communitarianism and exclusion"

If you inform yourself by reading all documents pertaining to jesus and not just the bible you will realize the central message that god wanted him to transmit was we are all gods children.... when jesus said in aramaic i am the son of god, the translation got messed up cause in aramaic language language son and sun are the same word...jesus really meant i am the sun of god transmiting his central message.... we are all gods children. constantine the great edited what stories were to be put in the bible and what were to be left out or changed slightly.... man's inherent nature is to lie, mislead and manipulate....if you read enough you will differentiate manipulation much better .....please inform yourself before making stupid comments other wise your just like the other sheep in history that have murdered in the name of god and that has nothing to do with whether you believe in god or not

tell me how materialism truly unites people. all it does is offer you
options that allow you to differentiate yourself from other like buying a ferrari cause only like twenty of them are made each year or wearing a rolex to show off the rank of my class in a society . replacing religion with materialism does not help to reduce death but to increase crime through jealousy. material wants have killed as many people in the history of mankind as has religion. i.e genghis khan massacreing thousands for gold.hitler killing millions to conquer the world (for land) the conquistadores killing indians for gold.

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tell me how materialism truly unites people. all it does is offer you
options that allow you to differentiate yourself from other like buying a ferrari cause only like twenty of them are made each year or wearing a rolex to show off the rank of my class in a society . replacing religion with materialism does not help to reduce death but to increase crime through jealousy. material wants have killed as many people in the history of mankind as has religion. i.e genghis khan massacreing thousands for gold.hitler killing millions to conquer the world (for land) the conquistadores killing indians for gold


I didn't resume this discussion because you made it a painful experience by calling me stupid in every paragraph and by displaying such arrogance in your sentiment.

The only thing i will say here is that before you call people stupid, you should maybe check the definitions of the topics at hand first, because it is clear that you have no clue whatsoever of what materialism is and what it really entails.
No, materialism isn't simply "buying a ferrari" and the love of gold, the materialism i am referring to has strictly nothing to do with that.

Anyway, if i had the slightest feeling that you have a minimum of intellectual honesty, i would try and explain it to you, but it is clear to me that it would be a lost cause. People resorting to insults as a substitute for an intelligible argument are not worth my time.


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SADAM????

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give me a verse in the bible where it says mankind should kill the gays.


*Sigh* Does Leviticus 20:13 ring a bell? See? As easy as that.

You're ridiculous in the very first sentence, so excuse me if i don't take you seriously at all. Why would anyone make such a claim when a simple google search can prove him wrong is beyond me.

Not to mention, you must not know the book in question at all in order to ignore one of its most infamous verse. It shows how much you actually know behind that wall of certitudes.

Here's some good Jesus for ya in Matthew 10:34-37:

"Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."


Nice guy, eh? The perfect son-in-law!

Now please, be quiet.


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Turn the other cheek brother , tut tut what would jebus think :) lol

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Bible movies "get your goat"???? You mean this one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Baphomet.png
Interesting.... Someone mentioned the anti-Christ's showing up to boards like these. Do you know who Judas Iscariot is? One of the original 12 apostles who betrayed Jesus with a kiss and for 30 pieces of silver? Commonly referred to as an anti-Christ and the "Son of Perdition" (Son of destruction, son of Satan, etc) Here's the story
John 13 ►

Jesus Washes His Disciples’ Feet


1It was just before the Passover Festival. Jesus knew that the hour had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.

2The evening meal was in progress, and the devil had already prompted Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, to betray Jesus. 3Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God; 4so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist. 5After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.

6He came to Simon Peter, who said to him, “Lord, are you going to wash my feet?”

7Jesus replied, “You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand.”

8“No,” said Peter, “you shall never wash my feet.”

Jesus answered, “Unless I wash you, you have no part with me.”

9“Then, Lord,” Simon Peter replied, “not just my feet but my hands and my head as well!”

10Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet; their whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you.” 11For he knew who was going to betray him, and that was why he said not every one was clean.


12When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. “Do you understand what I have done for you?” he asked them. 13“You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. 15I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.

Jesus Predicts His Betrayal


18“I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill this passage of Scripture: ‘He who shared my bread has turneda against me.’b

19“I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am. 20Very truly I tell you, whoever accepts anyone I send accepts me; and whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me.”

21After he had said this, Jesus was troubled in spirit and testified, “Very truly I tell you, one of you is going to betray me.”

22His disciples stared at one another, at a loss to know which of them he meant. 23One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. 24Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, “Ask him which one he means.”

25Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him, “Lord, who is it?”

26Jesus answered, “It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish.” Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot. 27As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him.

So Jesus told him, “What you are about to do, do quickly.” 28But no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. 29Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the festival, or to give something to the poor. 30As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.
Then there's THIS
25:31  When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

25:32  And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

25:33  And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.


25:34  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

25:35  For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
It's no coincidence that Baphomet, the goat satanic symbol is "goat headed." A "Judas Goat" is a goat trained to lead other animals to slaughter. Named after Judas Iscariot, the Biblical betrayer who Satan entered to assist in the condemnation and betrayal of Jesus.

John 17 refers to "the son of Perdition" associated with Judas. Jesus protected all of his apostles from Satan because they were loyal sheep and he was their protective Shepherd. Judas, the goat, assigned to carry the group purse, was said to steal from the meager monies carried by the apostles. He was angry when Mary Magdalene used up an ENTIRE bottle of perfumed oil (equivalent of a years wage?) to honor Jesus (note= she was preparing her Lord for his burial and he didn't have ears to hear or eyes to see because he was obsessed with money and THIS world NOT eternal salvation) he offered to give our Lord up to the Pharisees for 30 pieces of silver.

Then, he threw salt in Jesus' wounds by mocking him(???) thereafter by betraying him with a "kiss."

So, it's interesting how some posters go out of their way to take Jabs at Jesus, God, and the Bible. Your use of the word "goat" was ironic. Why attack this so much? Jesus NEVER started wars. He died for our sins. Why blame him and God for what men do wrongfully to each other in his name?

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Lena, too bad the bible is just bull sh t. You should use your memory for something worthwhile, instead of wasting your time on your ridiculous religion.


I hate bigots of all kinds. Especially religious bigots, who are probably that way due to idiots for parents.


Scripture: nonsense to keep the masses in line. See how well it works?

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I am not going to tell you who will betray me in words but will give him a piece of bread. I am not a tittle tattle or a grass HO HO HO.
I am most likely agnostic. Something did all of this unless we are just that little bit above the beast and remember how close we all are genetically. Some say close to the ape but we are not that far away from MICE either.
My only problem is with RELIGION being a method of stealing money from the many and putting it in the pockets of people who are closer to the idea of Satan than Jesus. Charity has now gone to the dark side and those faiths that are registered as charities are basically thieving and giving pittance to the charities good people hope to assist but in reality are paying wages to parasitical hanger ons. In truth we are [well those who work and buy stuff with our ill gotten gains when we hide our real worth from democratic treasury's are already giving to charity by the 20 and 25% that some governments top up. It like religion has all become a great scam. I feel that our existence in this universe expanding at whatever rate it can makes us all a very small part and what GOD has the time to check it all out. His balancing act if indeed he cares will make sure no astral body hits us??? again??? It is arrogant to think that anything which has existed mire than the 14 billion years we think we know about has us particularly in mind and chooses to converse with us. Unless we are Moses, Jesus, Mohammed peas be upon him, or Joseph Smith and now Ron L Hubbard. Mind you in the later case he like Jesus was not responsible for the following cult.

I have not yet seen this series and will watch with interest as the whole bible story is quite a wonderful one and does I hope assist mankind in doing what is right for fellow man. Any faith which preaches a good attitude to others is to be given credit. But in truth I cannot see how tolerance is acceptable. That is like suggesting that all the runners in the 100 meter's are all winners of the gold medal and and equally fastest. I am sorry but but my FAITH has to be the right one and all the others are false and the world should be made aware of that.

My understanding of the New Testament though is that while the main four Gospels are so differing in some aspects we do have PAUL who seems to have taken over the whole business much in the same way as our modern publicists do and we now have the result as the the Christian part of the Bible. I remember a very well known publicist who GRACED our screens for how many years telling us how it is. Max Clifford.

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How can all you that dont believe in God or think the bible is 'fairy tales' explain all the prophesies that have been proven 100%? Everything that has been predicted in the bible has come true. Just the birth of Christ and all he did had over a hundred different prophesies predicting it. I just cant fathom not believing in Jesus and what he did for all of human kind....I hope you figure it all out soon.

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They don't need to. They don't believed in it. It's that simple.




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because the "bible" hasn't even been remotely correct about anything since it's a horrible translation of crap taken from the Babylonian bible written 2000 years before it.. a bunch of crazy suicidal natives in Central America guessed more things right than the bible.. you can believe in some fake higher power all you want but don't ever say the bible has predicted anything in history correctly..

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What a load of *beep* And I guess you are the kind of person that only wants people to react on things they like. No criticism allowed. Just kiss everybody's ass, that's the way to go....

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Another comment that's as ridiculous as religion. You don't refute anything that your so-called anti-christs say, you just write blather and bull crap. You must be at a high level in your church with such nonsense.

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Yeah but people don't watch horror flicks and believe it's all true and then try to force other people to believe it, and decide that because all this stuff is true it means some other people can't do certain harmless things. So it's totally different!

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Jesus loves you and I am praying for you to find Him.

I belong to Jesus: my Lord, Savior, my eternity, my everything. I love you, Jesus!

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Haha, so true! Though the opposite also happen when films that seem to have a hardon message for anti-Religions happen.

I remember craps posts after posts like that when Davinci's Code and Golden Compass came out.

What I like to know is, why are there a bunch of pro/anti Christians films, but nothing about something much more provoking these days, like Muslim related. Maybe they're afraid of death threat.







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Thanks for writing a comment that is as ridiculous as religion.

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Do you have thought. No not about rational thinking or logic when it comes to religion...

So why do you pretend your jew messiah has turned up, when your bible proves jewsus is not your jew messiah?
































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what a waste of time to actually write this..

obviously you wasn't target audience for show so no need to hate.

hopefully one day you find Jesus tho


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hopefully one day you find Jesus

Found him. Was totally unimpressed.


Religion is like a rocking chair -- a lot of work to get nowhere.

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its all down to the yanks and their obsession with god-halellujah

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its all down to the yanks and their obsession with god-halellujah


If that's true, why did "Noah" and "Exodus" both lose money in the US? Exodus has become a huge sucking hole that will never recoup its losses, and Noah was universally rejected by American audiences -- leaving the Europeans to make up its net gains.

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if you look at the bible for what it really is.. "a book with a bunch of fiction stories" instead of what religions try to make you believe.. the stories in themselves are good and actually translate well to semi drama/action movies. just ignore the underlying fake religion crap and watch the movies/shows for the stories they are and you'll actually enjoy them.

i'll probably watch this for a few episodes and see how badly they try to force the church crap before deciding if it's bad or not.

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I was a christian - now, well, I don't know. I suppose I could agree with my husband and call myself an agnostic christian. I believe in God, I follow the parts of the bible in the new testament that speaks of kindness and acceptance and I never go to church. The latter is too man led and too little God led - case in point, Vatican is the richest church in the world, yet they exalt their followers to donate every penny they have to causes and the church (obviously). Any pope who's ever argued that point, mysteriously dies of 'natural causes' and the new one suddenly 'forgets' about the fact the catholic church is so insanely rich.....

Anyway, my daughter was a christian; is now, like her dad, an agnostic. She's a truly wonderful person who cares about others so much. Case in point she could've gone to college and done an IT course in game design and marketing (both of which she is seriously gifted at); shedloads of money career - she would've even had a job lined up at the end of the course.

But she turned it down to study animal care at a different college because helping animals is her dream (sadly we can't afford for her to study to be a vet). There's also no guarantee of a job when she qualifies; but she only cares about helping the animals. She would go without to help us, and often has offered birthday or christmas money to help us when things were bad. She's only ever got into fights defending others from bullies or abuse. She's 17 and is the light in my life along with her father.

My husband, her dad, is an agnostic. Both of them believe in 'something', but not necessarily a 'religious' something. My husband is the best kind of guy and loves to look after me (my health is shot). I do my best but, as my health continues to fail, so I falter; but he has NEVER complained. They're neither of them perfect; but they're as close as I will ever see a human get in my lifetime.

My parents, my late mum sadly died some six years ago, were/are devout christians. Again lovely people who would do anything for someone in need. When my mum died; three hundred people came to her funeral - she thought only family would, she didn't think she was important. But she'd helped so many they wanted to pay their respects to her: I cried over that I admit. Again they're weren't perfect people, but I loved them to bits; I still miss my mum more now than the day she died.

I have friends who are - to list here: a druid, a pagan and a wiccan (there IS a difference, trust me on that). Another friend is a sikh and still another is a buddhist. My parents in law were/are atheists (my father in law died three years ago).

The ONLY ones to be hateful to others (and not just me); to try to con them, be cruel to them and treat them badly? My atheist in-laws. They were/are the most vilest people I know. My mother in law often doesn't flush her toilet until she knows it will clog up with her poop so that me or my husband will have to fish around in it to clear it (she's 91 and got more evil as she's got older). That's one of her nicer traits too; especially where me and my daughter are concerned.

So what someone believes or doesn't believe doesn't make them evil or good. It is the PERSON themselves. What I will add here is the most vile behaviour I ever met as a practicing christian came from atheists when they found that simple fact out.

I usually avoided discussing religion because it's personal to each one of us - whether we believe or not. But some people, usually atheists, feel the need to 'preach' about how anyone believing in religion is a nutjob. Even a (now ex) friend tried to hit me and told me my then baby daughter should be taken from me, that I should be 'sent to a camp where your idiocy can be re-educated and you can be sterilised to save the world from more of your kind' and that if I insisted on sticking to my faith then I should be 'removed from life' as I was, according to him, 'tainting the world' with my 'madness'.

Would a religious follower have been accepted talking to an atheist like that? No, of course not and rightly so; so what gives that atheist the right to talk to me like that? My 'crime', apart from my belief, was that all I kept saying was that it was an each to their own situation. He could, or could not, believe whatever he wanted but, by the same token, so could I so we would better to just beg to differ. That only drove him madder......but why? 

Never anyone from the agnostic/other religions has ever treated me like that - with the except of a muslim man who was very nasty to me.

I don't necessarily watch these films, as they just don't have the old memories of watching the old movies like Ben-Hur as a family at Christmas or easter; despite all the new ones special effects. I'm also not the christian I once was - does that mean I'd come here to denounce the new films? To ridicule those who, like my father, still stick to their religious beliefs?

No, because I believe in the idea of free will - the idea it's PERSONAL CHOICE. I think it's that idea alone that sets most of us, regardless of our personal stance on religion and religious style movies, apart from atheists. The rest of us just don't seem to be eaten up with the anger and hatred they seem to be. Which of course says more about them, than it does anyone else. 

Oh and, just an FYI, no christians I know would ever do anything to gays - least of me, I have a lesbian cousin who I adore and who is my daughter's Godmother. As I told my daughter, so long as you have someone to love and who loves you back, then gender,skin colour, etc is immaterial. Being happy is ALL.

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Enjoy life; there's plenty of time to be dead - especially when you're a vampire.

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You're not an agnostic if you believe in a god. Agnosticism is an ideology of ignorance. Meaning: an agnostic-theist doesn't know if a god exists or not but leans in the direction that one probably does. An agnostic a atheist doesn't know if a god exists but leans in the direction that a god most likely doesn't. I'm an Ignostic-atheist, myself. I feel, firstly, that a coherent and general definition of a god/s should be determined before a discussion of its existence can ever take place. There are billions of "gods" because each individual--who may collectively belong to the same religion--all worship the deity in their image.

-Nam

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You sound like a true Christian to me.... like the early Christians.... Jesus never told us to go to church... he told us we were the church.... and Revelation is clear that there are no Temples in heaven as God and the Lamb are the Temple... religion is created by man.... Jesus told us to open ourselves up to the Holy Spirit... not to engage in ritual... the entire New Testament is a rejection of ritual.... sacrifice.... going through the motions... and the last thing Jesus did before going home was tear down the curtain in the Temple..


Not sure your depth of knowledge... but the Pharisees and church leaders believed that only they could have access to God... in the Holy of Holies....a room in the temple.... hard to get to....I read you had to climb a wall to get there and only the special priest could do it to be close to God FOR the people like once a year...etc.... there was a CURTAIN in the Holy of Holies... and symbolically this separated the common man from God... but not the allegedly special church leaders...Pharisees...

By tearing down the curtain... not from the bottom but from the top... it signified DIVINE communication from God that no longer was God going to tolerate allegedly special men separating his "church" (church being souls of men and women...) from him while they claimed divine license from God..

What I find so ironic is that Jesus tore down one curtain and destroyed the Jewish temple... and then the Roman Catholics replaced it with the exact same thing.... is the argument that God didn't like the Jewish Pharisees so he wanted new kids on the block to act just like the Pharisees but only with new clothing and cathedrals instead of temples?

I hardly think so...

Someone called me agnostic the other day because I no longer believe in "Catholicism..."...I was pretty upset.... agnostic means to doubt there is a God or to be skeptical.... as opposed to atheism..... I am the polar opposite of that... I love God... I love Jesus.... I just don't think the Catholic Church is great as an institution.... its an out of control beast... plenty of wonderful priests... multitudes of wonderful Catholics.... but, just because I think it is not awesome does not make me agnostic....

I am a true faithful believer in God and Jesus as my savior.... I just don't believe in the Catholic church.... but the Catholic church, despite its arrogant claims to divinity is not God nor does it have a monopoly on God... nor does any other man made religion in my view.... and why do I need a middle man (pastor, priest) who is supposedly more special to God than me... or saint...etc... to give me absolution for my sins... didn't the tearing down of the curtain mean I, like the Pharisees now have a right to directly pray to God without the middleman??? And even Revelation is clear here too... the angel tells John not to worship him or give him praise as the angel, like John, is a servant of God as well... so I have to give confession to a priest and not God directly why again???

Nor do I believe I have to align myself with the protestants as some sort of protest against Catholicism as some people define the difference... like there is only Catholic and everything else...??? hardly.... lol...

Again..to me... faith in God and Jesus is not defined by an opinion of or relationship with or without the Catholic Church or other man made church.... that religion just developed power over the years.... that's all... my relationship is with God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit....I dont define myself by some man made group or denomination nor do I feel I have no right to be part of Jesus' church because I don't attend some mortals human made church...

Again... so you don't attend a building... so what....that doesn't mean you aren't Christian... maybe you're not... only you know your heart as does God... but it drives me bananas when good people(and real Christians instead of mere churchgoers) get turned off to Jesus and or God because of the moronic actions of human dingalings grouping together in buildings and merely claiming whatever they do is okay because its in the name of God...

Galena




*Free speech opinion w/ pseudonym internet moniker w/o malice for debate and discussion🌈

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No one is twisting your arm to watch it, so you can kindly get lost.

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I have God's spirit living within me, I have received The Holy Spirit. Jesus is our Lord.

Jesus is above all, my Lord and Savior. He died for me and I live my life for Him.

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*grabs popcorn* This is great reading!

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Or if you didn't want to see these things, you just wouldn't see them or talk about them? Why are so many atheists so darn whiny lately that they are completely incapable of just watching something else? Not evolved that far yet?

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