Why did she go back to Joe?


The man was controlling and a wife beater, and the 'real' Joe was not exactly a looker either, the actor who played him in this movie was too handsome.

Here's an article that dealt more about their twisted love

http://nypost.com/2014/06/08/inside-the-twisted-love-affair-of-joe-dimaggio-marilyn-monroe/

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First of all, that article comes from the NY Post, which is distinctly sensationalistic in nature. I would take some of those details with a grain of salt, and chalk them up to being the product of long steeped legend. But call it the karma of their dynamic as a couple, and people will overlook a lot for love. Marilyn certainly had her own issues, and her own goals. So there was probably a measure of mutual disillusionment there during the marriage.

And Joe was not a perfect person, and had his own flaws, which Marilyn of course found unacceptable at the time she filed for divorce. But outside of his jealousy, and the expectations he had of her during their short marriage, Joe was basically a decent person. He did make efforts to improve himself after their marriage. And he had no doubt undergone some personal change in the years they were apart. Near the end of Marilyn's life, she couldn't have asked for a more loyal advocate… It sure wasn't that cad Arthur Miller.



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He probably had a big schlong.

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Joe was an old fashioned, one dimensional man . You have to keep in mind that men had a certain mentality back then. They weren't as in touch with their feminine side as are today's "man" seems to be.
Joe was married to Marilyn. He had this "You belong to me" thing going on and he didn't take kindly to that "thing" she became in public. He didn't understand it. Who could? "Watch this. Watch me become Marilyn" (I always felt that sex appeal was a monster because it was a entity... I feel.. It was not human ... I recall her saying how she went to church and had to literally hold her clothes on and will herself NOT to allow IT control to stand up in church and rip her clothes off) Yeah, under all that charm and light was a dark devouring entity. They always come to ya like that. People DO say they felt weird around her. The guy in Bus Stop went as far as accidently calling her "scaley" Marilyn quipped after he said it "OH a Freudian slip !"

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A person can choose to be anything, but they are more inclined to be some things more than others. And better suited to them as well. Partly because of gender, which is certainly not a made up context. If it were, what is the significance of being a wife beater over any other kind of beater? There is confliction in your statements… Believe it or not, society is not a cross-gender free for all even now.



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have some more coffee it was only a movie

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So, Miss Mermaid - Are you saying that Marilyn should have been the baseball player and Joe should have been the sex symbol and then things might have worked out for them? I mean at least it might have been Marilyn beating up on Joe instead of the other way around.. You would have probably liked to have seen that, huh?

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You're saying that men are better suited to being doctors, lawyers, scientists, CEOs, soldiers, and auto mechanics, and women make better secretaries, teachers, nurses, and primary caregivers for children, because reasons?


I didn't say that, in fact I have seen women doing all of those things. Though it remains to be seen if women make effective combat soldiers. In fact, I believe there has yet to be a single female to make it through US Marine infantry officer training, and many have tried. But what I am saying, is that men and women are better suited to some things, more than others. And it involves not only attitude, but also physical aptitude. Women are certainly better suited than men at giving birth to children, are you going to argue with that, and call it a made up context? I suppose you think men and women are the exact same size and strength on average too.

What you're doing, is angering yourself over stereotypes, when gender roles and stereotypes are two different things. How do you think gender roles developed in the first place? They developed from each gender's natural inclination to one thing over another. It's not that women are told not to be loggers, iron workers, or oil rig workers. It's that the vast majority of women have no interest in being any of that. And would probably not be happy doing it, or as physically capable of it, as the men who do it. Any more than most men want to work in daycare, tending to the needs of small children all day. By definition, women are maternal, they are suited for this.

You will always come across an anomaly, like the female auto mechanic I saw recently, but it is not the norm. And that's not due to societal expectations, because obviously nobody stopped her from being a mechanic. And there are also physiological and biochemical differences between men and women, that you are not acknowledging, but are indeed very real. You have issues over the application of gender roles quite evidently, but gender is certainly not built on fallacy.



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"Gender is a completely made up concept that teaches us which BEHAVIORS or personality traits are "acceptable" based on a person's biological sex (male or female)."

If girls want to dig ditches, no one's stopping them!

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Say what you want about him but that poor women body wasn't claimed by anyone for 3 days. Joe step up and claimed her and made all her funeral arrangements. There so much that the public doesn't know. We don't know everything that went on behind closed doors. He sent roses to her gave for 20 years. If she was ever really loved for just who she was and not what she was....he seems to come the closes.

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Say what you want about him but that poor women body wasn't claimed by anyone for 3 days. Joe step up and claimed her and made all her funeral arrangements. There so much that the public doesn't know. We don't know everything that went on behind closed doors. He sent roses to her gave for 20 years. If she was ever really loved for just who she was and not what she was....he seems to come the closes.


Very true, even in death, he was her strongest advocate. And he never sold her out or spoke of her publicly.



"Cristal, Beluga, Wolfgang Puck… It's a f#@k house."

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Joe truly seemed to love her, but unfortunately a man like that could never be married to a woman like Marilyn Monroe.

Amy Adams: too plain to be Lois Lane

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