What was she thinking?


So she's somewhat smitten by this good looking executive, Todd, who barely listens to her ideas for a Christmas party that he knows is near and dear to her heart. When he finally rejects her idea for the party and fires her, essentially cancelling the party because he wanted it to cater to corporate VIP types rather than disadvantaged kids, she still considers continuing a personal relationship with the guy? That seemed a little shallow to me. Naive as well, telling Nick that Todd was still a good guy. How could she not see through this empty corporate suit?

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Are you talking about the roses scene? I don't think she was considering pursuing her relationship with Todd. I took that scene as Jennie protecting her feelings for Nick. After all, Nick was leaving and Jennie thought he was seeing that other woman Kim, so she was showing that someone wanted her too, even if it was Todd. Remember prior to this scene, Jennie was telling her friend that she didn't want Nick to leave. As soon as Kim told Jennie that Nick had fought for her and her job, any residual thought of Todd, if any, were wiped from her mind. She told him as much when she returned the photo to him.

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I wasn't speaking specifically about that scene but the whole interaction between her and Todd. Especially the scene in which Todd fires her. He asks her to reconsider their personal relationship and she says nothing. He even says that he will call her in a couple of days. Again she says nothing but just looks at him with disappointment as he leaves. She very well could have said that their personal relationship was definitely over right then and there. So it's not difficult to conclude that she's open to continuing their personal relationship. In case you don't recall, it wasn't until a couple of days later that she told him it was over. She even mentioned it to Nick later that day.

Nick saw through Todd right away and warned her. So was she that naive or just that willing to set professional principles aside for the sake of dating him and getting the account?

Since you brought up that roses scene though, let me see if I understand. She has feelings for Nick but chooses to push him away by feigning a continuing relationship with Todd. Sounds like game playing and a bit childish to me but I've given up on trying to figure women out a long time ago.

From this guy's perspective, if I think I have feelings for a gal but she shows no interest by making a point to let me know that she's interested in someone else, in this case defending Todd and saying that he's a good guy, then I'm history. (Remember that she made a point of showing Nick the picture Todd gave her and pointing out that the roses were from Todd personally and not the company)

I won't waste my time or set myself up to get hurt and I don't think most guys would either.

You even stated yourself, "As soon as Kim told Jennie that Nick had fought for her and her job, any residual thought of Todd, if any, were wiped from her mind. She told him as much when she returned the photo to him." This scene occurred after she received the roses from Todd and suggests, even in your mind, that there was the possibility (even slightest) she was still open to continuing a relationship with Todd up to that point, which was my arguement in the first place.

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I think you should watch the movie. Things are not nearly as black and white as you are painting them. Todd wasn't a "bad" guy and he was shown to genuinely like Jenny which is why she didn't just dismiss him outright even after she was fired from the project. Honestly, I'm not sure why she had to return the photo he gave her. I understand her cutting ties with him, but returning the gift--a very thoughtful gift it was, a real keepsake--seemed harsh and not really sensible.

Anyway, I'm glad she ended up with Nick, but one thing I liked about this movie is that there were not really any "bad" guys.





"If it doesn't make sense, it's not true." -- Judge Judy

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I never called him a bad guy. My reference to him was as an "empty corporate suit"; as in no heart, full of self importance, only interested in appearances and the bottom line. I don't need to watch it again but maybe you should and pay closer attention to "all" the dialog, then maybe you will hear what I did that supports my contention.

He didn't like the idea of the party she was planning the for kids. At first he was pretty much disconnected from her ideas for the party (not really listening), not giving her much direction and only flirting with an interest in dating her. He wasn't acting very professional or business like at all. It was his personal choice to not present her plans for the party to his boss, but the boss loved the party when the two of them showed up to it at the end. Remember that Todd's boss asked him why he let the tradition go.

There was an obvious difference between past practice and what Todd had in mind, so why not seek clarification from his boss? After all, the boss did refer to the party as a "Tyrell Toys" party and not a corporate christmas party. Certainly after Todd heard that, seeking clarification would have been the professional thing to do. How difficult would it have been for him to discuss her plans with his boss rather than just arbitrarily firing her on his own because he didn't personally like her ideas?

Like I said previously and repeated here, he was an empty corporate suit. The telltale line was when Nick pleaded with Todd to give her another chance and Todd said to him, "it's not christmas, it's my job".

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