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That camera shot of the steam/water being opened!

posted 9 years ago by Like_Oh_Sure
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Emmy or Grammy or whatever, what a stroke of luck being so focussed in and not seeing the bigger picture when it apparently spilt out from pressure and caused first degree burns under the behest of a lawyer who was heard to be liable as the person who commanded it be opened to an older person who had seen the darker side of police work in his gay red jumper and dyed tash!

Also; where are all these animals who ate all the yams or whatever, and who was the mysterious camera guy who followed them around and took arty shots of them walking and looking for these yams or whatever it is the non-existent animals ate.

Also, that 'window', well worth the effort! Up there with that garden path that took them 10 days to make 

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[–] jidf32 9 years ago

In case you missed the first episode, It is clearly stated that the group itself will have about 3 professional cameramen in it. There are professional cameras as well as gopros that everyone gets to put on. The cameramen are all experienced and so they know how to get angles because even though this is an experiment, it is also for TV and viewer purposes. These guys tape themselves 24/7 yet just a little footage from the whole experience is used. So there is no mysterious camera guy, it's one of the participants.

The water incident was clearly an accident. So many people get burnt the same way opening their car radiators. The yuccas were probably eaten by contestants from the British season because it is the same Island they recently where on if I am not mistaken. Those guys think it's animals.

[–] Like_Oh_Sure 9 years ago

I think you should watch the most recently shown episode again.

The 'camera angles' of the two men looking for the yukkas must be shot by a third party, there is no other way for the panning to happen.

The water gets boiled daily, if not more, why would the camera have zoomed up to the outlet of the can on this occasion but not on any other?

There are tonnes of stuff which separate this from realist.

The British men were on an island in Indonesia, this is off the East Coast of Central America.

Think whilst you watch, reason why it is scripted the way it is and seemingly plays out the way it does.

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[–] jidf32 9 years ago

The camera angles of the guys looking for yuccas where not from a third party. they were from the 2 guys. Matt held the Camera and Trey had the GoPro camera on his head. In the woods those were the only 2 angles we got. On the Beach when they are passing by, the camera used was Matt's, If you look at him as he passes through the cameras view, he was not holding the camera. Why? Because he had set it to get a shot of them walking past. He is a professional cameramen and the reason they are there is to get some good shots as well for production value. But there was no third party camera.

The water gets boiled daily, if not more, why would the camera have zoomed up to the outlet of the can on this occasion but not on any other?

, Errm, It has zoomed in on the jerrycan before plenty of times. It zoomed in the first time they got water. it zooms in when they are pouring the water into the containers. Most of the time it probably does zoom in and nothing happens so the footage of nothing happening when they open it isnt used. Another example. Do you know that the men gave daily updates on the 2way radio? Probably not, because that footage wasnt used. Yet people are acting like they have seen all the footage to know that everyday the jerrycan was opened, the focused on leaves or something. And i have seen it plenty times focused on the jerrycan but I guess i cant stop people from being selective

I think whilst I watch, I am just not going to be desperate to find a conspiracy of fakery just because all the other reality shows are fake.I watch the show objectively so i am not suckered. I am just not trying to be That guy desperate to find that "staged" moment and so if someone on the Island trips and falls, i think it was staged for the ratings. Just look at the criticism that has been leveled against the show since its inception. It has only been about the wildlife that production disclosed when they said that they wanted to make sure the island had enough resources for the men to survive and the killing of animals. Nothing about staged burnings or even extra cameramen. That is even an accusation that hasnt even been thrown there before

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[–] jidf32 9 years ago

There is no evidence, just conspiracy theories. Nothing more nothing less. Every other theory I have explained to you yet you are still trying desperately to be the "Aha! Gotcha" guy. If there was evidence, The internet would be littered with blogs and articles professing that evidence. So far the only thing that has come up was the well documented issue of one lined pool and pigs, caimans and yucca. Nothing about 3rd party cameramen(which would be easy to prove dont you think?) I am not naive nor am i gullible, but like i said, I am not going to be bringing up conspiracy theories every time someone trips and falls. You think the massive weight losses are staged too?

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[–] jidf32 9 years ago

spoil it for me, I challenge you to. Otherwise you are just saying that to have the last word without admitting that you really dont have anything left agter I explained away your theories.

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[–] jidf32 9 years ago

You are funny. You spoke about the 3rd party camera, I explained that if you looked at the shot you would realise that it was Matt's camera because when he did pass the camera he wasnt holding anything yet in all other angles from Treys GoPro, Matt is holding the camera. You had no rebuttal to that.

You spoke about the camera focusing on the jerrycan and how that was odd and I told you they do that a lot. Just that it is usually with no consequence so the footage isnt used. Look at where the camera focuses when they finally find water after being severely dehydrated. You couldnt rebuttal that either.

But hey... you know better. Now you are trying the whole "dont need to justify myself to you" approach. A quite common approach might I add. But we all know what that means.

FYI, It isnt important to me, it seems important to you to be the one who bust this "reality show". Keep at it..

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[–] jidf32 9 years ago

why thank you. Cheers

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[–] jackfrost4298 9 years ago

As far as the Jerry Can being opened, I have to agree with the so called "shill" here. If YOU are filming that scene, are you going to focus on the Jerry Can or the guy's face? There was NO reason at the time to focus the shot on the cops face.. unless you knew what was coming.

On that note, the cameraman may have seen that coming to some extent with the way the cop positioned his face directly in the line of fire, I mean something was going to come shooting out of there with all that pressure built up and he should have known that.. I think this can all be chalked up to the conditions taking its toll on everyone, and the downward spirals Bear often talks about: no food = bad decisions/no focus etc. etc.

About the show being "staged", I'm sure some elements of it are, like the domesticated pigs that showed up on the British Women's season. Wild pigs would not have followed the women all around the island like puppies and be comfortable enough around humans to sleep with them in their own beds. Those pigs were clearly NOT wild. The one that showed up this season(or was it last season?), didn't seem to have his senses or wits(possibly drugged) but there is no evidence, and until there is I will reserve judgement.

Also, I believe all seasons of this show take place on the SAME exact island.
From the aerial shots, it looks exactly the same.

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[–] jackfrost4298 9 years ago

From the aerial shots they show of the island at the beginning, it does appear to be the same exact island. If you can provide a source or proof of it being otherwise then fine, either way it isn't a big deal but kind of interesting.

The one time we get a close up of a jerry can is actually a judgement call a cameraman made knowing it will explode?

You misunderstand what we are trying to tell you here, I never said the cameraman knew it would explode, I said he MAY have seen it coming just by the way the cop positioned himself like an idiot before opening it.

And yes, the one time you get a close up of a jerry can is when something interesting actually happens.. Do you really want to watch every minute of the mundane tasks these guys have to do every single day there? There is a LOT of editing going on.

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