Jory has dark hair like his father Julian.
And Melodie is blond
shareJory has the appearance of his biological father, but has the personality & temperament of Chris; whom Jory regards as his actual father.
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Watching this as I type and these two things are bothering me.
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Hell I have already thought of nine inconsistencies and we're only 20 minutes in.
-Melodie in the movie is brunette - she's supposed to be blonde.
-Bart wants a pet python - it's supposed to be a pony.
-Cindy's mom is dying of cancer - was some sort of auto accident in the book.
-Melodie and Jory going at it in the attic - it was barely more than flirting in the book.
-Bart falls and gets his arm infected - it is supposed to be his leg.
-There's barely a wood farm fence seperating the properties - it's supposed to be a tall stone wall.
-Corinne dresses almost scantily with a short veil - supposed to be long black dresses and a longer veil since she's pretty much completely covered.
-Corinne gives out her name Mrs Foxworth easily - it should be Mrs Winslow and she refuses to tell it in the book except to Bart and she only says she's his grandma.
-Jory is blonde - he should have black hair like his father.
"It's better to be hated for who you are than be loved for who you aren't."
I thought the same thing. Barely a few minutes into the movie and there were too many inconsistencies to count.
Also, Corinne's face was disfigured, that's why she wore the veil. In the movie, she's just slightly older looking.
In the book, she didn't offer the kids after-school jobs in her greenhouse.
In the book, Cindy is barely a toddler. In the movie, she looks like she's about 5 or 6.
Clover was a poodle, not a German Shepherd.
Cathy didn't pop Valium like Pez, either.
Yeah I wonder why they changed little things
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I think making Jory blond made Bart really the odd man out in that blond blond family. It really showed the alienation like he didn't match the family when they even adopted a child that resembled them better.
It's not so bad as long as you can keep the fear from your mind.
I couldn't agree more.
Wisdom Begins in Wonder
personally I don't mind that they made some changes to the adaptions, they made some changes in the FITA and POTW adaptions too, I think the writers probably didn't want the movie adaptions to be complete carbon copies of the books & copy every little detail from the books. That would certainly be more consistent with the books, but it would've made the movies merely complete carbon copies, I would prefer they change some things around, just to add abit of their own ideas & adjustments to the adaptions so that the movies would not seem like complete carbon copies of the books. Yes, these movies are suppose to be adaptions of the books, but that does not mean they have to copy every little detail from the books, I think that would just be boring.
shareIt's far from little things....
-Melodie in the movie is brunette - she's supposed to be blonde.
-Bart wants a pet python and Corinne gives it to him almost immediately - it's supposed to be a pony and she gets him a dog instead.
-Cindy's mom is dying of cancer - was some sort of auto accident in the book.
-Melodie and Jory going at it in the attic - it was barely more than flirting in the book.
-Bart falls and gets his arm infected - it is supposed to be his leg.
-There's barely a wood farm fence seperating the properties - it's supposed to be a tall stone wall.
-Corinne dresses scantily - supposed to be long black dresses.
-Corinne gives out her name Mrs Foxworth easily and lots about his family lineage - it should be Mrs Winslow and she refuses to tell it in the book except to Bart and she only says she's his grandma.
-Jory is blonde - he should have black hair like his father.
-Jory states Cathy's mom is locked up - they were told it was Chris' mother.
-Corinne tried to get the kids to come over more by offering them jobs - she just starts spoiling Bart.
-Corinne shows her face to Bart - she only did once in the book after a long while.
-Malcolm's journal is black - in the book it's red and this point is brought up repeatedly.
-Clover is a big dog, some sort of retriever - he's supposed to be a small dog.
All this 30 mins into the movie. Most are major plot points that come up over and over throughout ITBT and SOY.
"It's better to be hated for who you are than be loved for who you aren't."
Clover is a big dog, some sort of retriever - he's supposed to be a small dog.
Wasn't there also a St Bernard named Apple? share
to each their own, like I said, I don't care that they changed some things around, I prefer that they do, otherwise the movies are just complete carbon copies of the books. I understand that it bothers some people, but it doesn't bother me.
shareIf they improve or clarify the story then fine, but when you change little details its lazy. This adaptation wasn't great. It wasn't terrible but it wasn't great.
Bart desperately wanted a pony but because he would go home smelling like horse, Corinne bought him a St Bernard and told him he could ride him like a pony. This didn't go over well with Bart but he grew to love Apple. When Bart was hospitalized because of the blood poisoning Jory went to take care of Apple(Jory knew about him but the rest of the family did not) He found Apple chained up and starved with a pitchfork stuck in his side. John Amos did it to make Bart look crazy. Now you may say this was accomplished by the killing of Clover, but Clover didn't mean as much to Bart. It has a fraction of the impact.
So the details matter.
They also left out the whole story line of Bart having no surface nerve endings, so he can't feel any physical pain.
shareThat's a great part of the story, it adds to Bart's creepy character, like when he tells them that they can hit him or do whatever they want and he won't feel it. He really scared Cathy at that point. It would have been easy to add into the story yet would have added a lot.
shareThis is the reason why I don't read the book because i'd be comparing the book to the movie like you're doing here.
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Why does Jory have to have dark hair like his dad and not blonde hair like his mom. I can't recall his haircolor in the books, it has been 30 years since I have read them.
sharewell they say that dark color hair is more dominant over blonde...so if your parents are interracial and one has blonde hair and blue eyes, and the other has dark hair and brown eyes, you are most likely going to inherit dark hair and brown eyes, because dark hair is more dominant than blonde, and brown is the more dominant color for eyes. Notice how most if not all mixed Asians or mixed blacks still look mostly Asian or mostly black even if they have one parent who is caucasian or of another ethnicity? It's because dark colors always dominate over lighter colors. So I think that's probably why people expected Jory to inherit his father's dark hair.
shareActually, dark hair and brown eyes are dominant and blonde hair and blue eyes are recessive. In order for a couple with one with dark hair and one with blonde hair to have a blonde child, the dark-haired parent would have to be carrying a recessive blonde gene. The same goes for brown and blue eyes. If the parent with the dominant gene isn't carrying a recessive gene, there is no way for the child to have the blonde hair or blue eyes from the other parent.
shareI can't recall his haircolor in the books
From Petals in the Wind: If he had blonde hair he was going to be named Cory after the twin who died. Since he had dark hair like his Dad he was named Jory, a combination of Julian and Cory. I think they described his hair color as "blue-black." share
^^^^this^^^^
blue black with curls. ...ringlets to be exact. This was mentioned so much in the book which is important to the movie just like the color of Cathy's dress and the Swan bed. The books focused so much on detail. And the movies pale in comparison.
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From Petals in the Wind: If he had blonde hair he was going to be named Cory after the twin who died. Since he had dark hair like his Dad he was named Jory, a combination of Julian and Cory. I think they described his hair color as "blue-black."
I remember reading that she said "he was named Jory - J for Julian, and the rest for Cory"
LOL! I am very obsessed with the books! I haven't read them for years but I still remember all of them.. :) share
It's mentioned several times in IFBT and SOY that Jory looks just like his father, so making him blonde was just plain silly of Lifetime. Melodie also was supposed to resemble Cathy - blonde and in stature. In the fourth book, guests at Bart's party mention how much they remind them of Jory's parents when they danced years before.
"It's better to be hated for who you are than be loved for who you aren't."