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Setting religion and this film's message aside...


...can we all just agree that this is a poorly made niche movie?

When it comes to the whole "Christian film industry," I tend to think of it in the same way I'd think of the worst of Troma, Z-grade student films, or even bad found-footage horror. Plenty of love and effort went into these films, but objectively they're just terrible movies made for people who can't get enough of the genre. And in many cases, these films are just a cash-grab by starving actors and pseudo-celebs who have hit rock bottom in their careers, whether they'd like to admit that or not. For examples, see 80% of Nicolas Cage's career.

I notice that plenty of Christians see this industry as a more wholesome alternative to secular mainstream cinema, and that's fine. But don't pretend this is Citizen Kane. It wasn't MEANT to be Citizen Kane. It's perfectly valid to say you were touched in some way by the film, but you cannot pretend that this deserves more than 5.0 on IMDB. When something like this hits you on a personal level, it's not because it's well-made, it's because you're particularly susceptible to the subject matter.

Also, I'm noticing an increasing amount of disturbing connotations within the plotlines of these films. Ignore them if you want, but beware when showing these movies to children or even impressionable adults. Some of this is probably poor writing.

I'm just really sick of people doling out undeserved praise to this film and those like it simply because they enjoyed seeing a film that catered to their religion. Personally, I'd feel offended and exploited by these films if I were a Christian, and I don't understand why more people don't see it that way. The way I see it, the people working on this film are mostly pulling a Creed, and that's the most shameful act one can commit in the entertainment industry.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law!

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Also, I'm noticing an increasing amount of disturbing connotations within the plotlines of these films. Ignore them if you want, but beware when showing these movies to children or even impressionable adults. Some of this is probably poor writing.


I pretty much agree with everything you said. I just saw this movie listed on the schedule for our local movie theater, and I wondered what it was. As I suspected, it was one of those films. And you're right, these films are usually cast with actors not at the pinnacle of their careers. It must have been a real casting coup to to get Mira Sorvino aboard, since, even though she's not had a hit in years, she's got some real creds, which lent this production greater weight.

What I want to know is, what's the connotation you saw in this movie? I'm curious. I'll never see this movie, because there are too many really great movies out there that I haven't seen, about which there is a consensus (or almost one). I don't care at all about the message this story is wrapped around. Still, I'd like to know what connotation you saw.

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Alric

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We cannot agree.
--JEff--

Jeffrey Lee Hollis

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...can we all just agree that this is a poorly made niche movie?


No, and why don't you just stick to non-religious films to vent on. There are no crowds of people gathering somewhere complaining about the production or story line for this film.

Grow up.

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When something like this hits you on a personal level, it's not because it's well-made, it's because you're particularly susceptible to the subject matter.

I just wish we could get a movie that takes advantage of its Christian subject-material while still telling a story that is good. Both with God's Not Dead & Do You Believe?, they had good ideas for a film, but the screenwriters did nothing with these good ideas both times.

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I'm a Christian and I loathed this movie.

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I, too am a Christian and will concede that this is not a very high quality movie. It's not awful, but not super-great. It is made for a specific audience. Interestingly, people are going out of their way to bash it.

Seriously, if you are not into God then why watch it, or why go to the board of the movie to bash it? It does what it sets out to do, catering to the church-going crowd. Trashing a movie, saying it is a "failure", when it tripled its budget, is nonsense.

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