Pass. - Lucifer (2016) Discussion

[–] delalluvia 7 years ago

And, of course, the ending was cool. The part where a police officer orchestrated the kidnapping of an innocent man by the Russian mob. This man will very likely be tortured and killed and Detective Douche is fully complicit in this crime. Wonder how this'll turn out...

The police didn't orchestrate it, Maze did. She was on the phone with the mobsters.

Dan only aided and abetted. He's more than willing to make the sacrifice to help Chloe get justice as he still loves her (hence the look on his face when Chloe testified about Lucifer), because he f'd up with Charlotte.

But likely nothing will come of it. The mobsters cover their tracks well.

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

The police didn't orchestrate it, Maze did. She was on the phone with the mobsters.

Dan only aided and abetted. He's more than willing to make the sacrifice to help Chloe get justice as he still loves her (hence the look on his face when Chloe testified about Lucifer), because he f'd up with Charolotte.

But likely nothing will come of it. The mobsters cover their tracks well.

Toe-MAY-toe, toe-MAH-toe. Split hairs all you like, he is still a conspirator and is equally guilty.

I'm sure "nothing will come if it" as far as the mob is concerned, but what about Dan? What "sacrifice" is he making?

If nothing comes of it, as far as Dan is concerned, then some people here are gonna be really, really upset, for they are on record insisting that the police can't commit crimes, but if they do, they can't get away with it. (At least not on this show!) Personally I don't care... but some people here were sooo emphatic about it they're likely to slit their wrists over this...

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] delalluvia 7 years ago

Toe-MAY-toe, toe-MAH-toe. Split hairs all you like, he is still a conspirator and is equally guilty.

Yes, so?

Chloe shot a civilian. She takes advantage of breaking and entering. Did you think she was a by-the-book cop?

I'm sure "nothing will come if it" as far as the mob is concerned, but what about Dan? What "sacrifice" is he making?

If it ever does come to light or the mob tries to extort him, he will take the fall for Chloe.

If nothing comes of it, as far as Dan is concerned, then some people here are gonna be really, really upset, for they are on record insisting that the police can't commit crimes, but if they do, they can't get away with it. (At least not on this show!) Personally I don't care... but some people here were sooo emphatic about it they're likely to slit their wrists over this...

Meh. If those folks are fans of this show and still think that, they haven't been paying attention to this show.

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Yes, so?

So... nothing. It seems we agree so we'll just leave it at that.

Chloe shot a civilian. She takes advantage of breaking and entering. Did you think she was a by-the-book cop?

No, quite the opposite. That's why I though she should've shot her father's killer when she had the chance. (and said as much in the OP of this tread; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4052886/board/nest/263060771 ) I thought it would've made the character, and thus the show, more interesting. It was other people here who got really, really upset at that suggestion, vehemently arguing that 'police would never do that' and that 'it would be bad for the show'.

If it ever does come to light or the mob tries to extort him, he will take the fall for Chloe.

See? That's just it. Now that Dan has done this, it has opened the door for all kinds of possibilities, both plot-wise and character development-wise. In other words, it makes the show more interesting. Had Dan rejected the idea of helping the mob kidnap Chloe's father's killer because "I'm a cop and can't do such a thing because of the code of ethics... that would've sucked. Just like when Chloe chose to not shoot her father's killer... the reaction of myself and many others was "Blah. How boring and predictable."

Meh. If those folks are fans of this show and still think that, they haven't been paying attention to this show.

Exactly. We are on the same page. Cheers.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] centrd 7 years ago

I agree that Dan is yet again making very questionable choices. Choices that will affect his soul, not just his relationships and his job. I still have a feeling that Dan is going to make mistakes that he may not be able to recover from. I've always felt that at the end of the show, Dan or Amenadiel will be redeemed but probably not both of them and that one of them will die as a result of his poor choices. I was leaning toward Amenadiel, since he dies in the comic, but I don't know, Dan keeps making a really good case for himself. Kevin Alejandro admitted the character makes poor choices, but that deep down he has a "strong moral" compass, he just doesn't seem to know how to read it.

The reason Chloe didn't shoot her father's killer is more apparent than ever now. Lucifer himself called her "truly good". We now know she was created by God with a specific purpose. She has been touched by The Divine. Killing a perp would absolutely be out of character for her. Whether you'd like to see her do it or not, it's just not who she is. I don't think it could be spelled out any more clearly after last night's episode.

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

It was a questionable choice, because as a cop he is supposed to act by the book.
But I wouldn't say it would affect his soul.
The guy had it coming, and is definitely heading to hell.

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[–] centrd 7 years ago

Killing someone is definitely one of the reasons you go to hell. Especially a cop, who shouldn't be engaging in vigilante justice. Whether the guy had it coming or not, it's a mortal sin. That automatically condemns your soul to hell, unless you repent. But according to Lucifer, just saying you're sorry's not good enough. You have to prove it through your actions. I think Dan's got quite a bit to redeem himself for. He just keeps making bad decisions. Even sleeping with Mum, which was really not his fault or intentional, shows how he just can't seem to avoid doing the wrong thing. One day, the wrong thing may be too much for him to come back from. Although I'm still leaning toward Amenadiel being the one to die at the end of the show. His death will be an act of repentance and he will die saving Lucifer, or Chloe, or the world or something, in my imagination, anyway.

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

I think Kurt is responding to wolf-child, who seems to love police corruption.
We had an argument in another thread.
And now wolf-child is at it again.
He can't let go and needs people to say he was right in the post he started weeks ago.
With such a need to prove he's right, he's probably French. :D

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Thank you Rat. Clicked on the wrong button and it ended up in Centrd's lap.

Interesting...I thought she had me on ignore.

lol

You won't need to call your attorney and sue, Centrd.

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[–] centrd 7 years ago

I did have you on ignore until a few days ago when I thought I'd make another attempt to converse civilly. I decided this after hearing that you make sense once in a while and were no longer a troll trying to make everyone feel like crap for enjoying the show. Stupid me. The first post of yours I read was you trashing me yet again. Did you not see my response to that?

That aside, thank you for removing the posts that mixed my quotes with someone else's. I don't like reporting people to the administrators no matter how annoyed I am.

I wasn't planning to sue you but since you brought it up, I really do wish people knew how easy it is to be sued on the internet. A website can be subpoenaed, like any other business, and asked to produce their user's contact info. Most big websites will comply because they don't want to be named in the suit as well. Suing internet users is not difficult at all.

So my point is. People should be nicer to each other. The internet isn't nearly as anonymous as everybody thinks it is. All it takes is one fed up person, or one evil crackpot (I knew a guy who did this for kicks), and a person could end up spending a lot of money defending themselves.

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

So if you were to sue me, would the USA provide free flight tickets for me to go to the trial?
Because you're close enough to Utah, I could do with a vacation. :D
What evil things do I have to write to be sued? 

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[–] centrd 7 years ago

Yeah, wouldn't that be nice? No, that's how this guy wins his lawsuits. He sues people who don't live near him, gets an emergency hearing scheduled for 24-48 hours away so the people can't get there in time, or can't afford to get there, and he wins by default. He's won many cases against people from other countries. But even more from other states.

And even if those people don't pay up, they now have a judgment on their record that they always have to disclose which can affect a lot of things, getting a job, a house, etc. And if he wants, he can continue to pursue them for payment. The man is an evil megalomaniac, who's trying to control all information about himself on the internet. But I learned something from it, it's not hard to do what he does at all.

I know this because he sued a website I ran because he didn't like what people were saying about his protocol in the comments. He wanted the entire site shut down because of what a couple people said. That time, instead of going after them, he went after my site. I'm the first person who ever beat him in court, but it cost me a lot of money. Fortunately, a bunch of people on the website chipped in for my legal fees. But I had just 24 hours to find and hire an attorney in his town who'd go to court for me before my check could get to him! No easy feat. (Weird they don't take credit cards.) Fortunately, I found somebody and the judge said it was so frivolous he threw it out of court. But if I hadn't had representation, the plaintiff would have automatically won, which is how he wins all his cases. I learned about website hosts too. They will throw you under the bus without having any facts at all as soon as they receive a subpoena.

There's another guy in my old town who goes to mom and pop businesses and if they're violating some handicap access law, he sues and always wins. It's kind of sad. Of course, handicap laws are there for a reason and need to be observed. But he never goes after big abusers, just little guys struggling to survive who can't afford the legal fight. It's literally how he makes his living. Everyone knows about him, he was even written up in the local paper.

So that's the litigious society we live in. It's equal opportunity, too. Almost anyone can take advantage of the system. But my whole point was, people think they're anonymous on the internet, and they really aren't. All it takes is a subpoena, which anyone can get, and boom, you're being sued for libel, etc. It's rare that a company will stand up for their customer's right to privacy. Apple did recently because the scope of their argument went far beyond the terrorist the government was trying to locate, but your average website host won't think twice about throwing a user under the bus if it keeps their name out of a lawsuit.

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

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[–] delalluvia 7 years ago

Yeah, wouldn't that be nice? No, that's how this guy wins his lawsuits. He sues people who don't live near him, gets an emergency hearing scheduled for 24-48 hours away so the people can't get there in time, or can't afford to get there, and he wins by default. He's won many cases against people from other countries. But even more from other states

This is the court's fault.

There is no reason for an 'emergency' hearing without documentation backing up the 'emergency'. If any court grants him this, then it's the court's fault.

If he wins? The defendants can file an appeal and he doesn't get paid squat until the appeal is heard.

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

by centrd >>

Yeah, wouldn't that be nice? No, that's how this guy wins his lawsuits. He sues people who don't live near him, gets an emergency hearing scheduled for 24-48 hours away so the people can't get there in time, or can't afford to get there, and he wins by default. He's won many cases against people from other countries. But even more from other states.

And even if those people don't pay up, they now have a judgment on their record that they always have to disclose which can affect a lot of things, getting a job, a house, etc. And if he wants, he can continue to pursue them for payment. The man is an evil megalomaniac, who's trying to control all information about himself on the internet. But I learned something from it, it's not hard to do what he does at all.

I know this because he sued a website I ran because he didn't like what people were saying about his protocol in the comments. He wanted the entire site shut down because of what a couple people said. That time, instead of going after them, he went after my site. I'm the first person who ever beat him in court, but it cost me a lot of money. Fortunately, a bunch of people on the website chipped in for my legal fees. But I had just 24 hours to find and hire an attorney in his town who'd go to court for me before my check could get to him! No easy feat. (Weird they don't take credit cards.) Fortunately, I found somebody and the judge said it was so frivolous he threw it out of court. But if I hadn't had representation, the plaintiff would have automatically won, which is how he wins all his cases. I learned about website hosts too. They will throw you under the bus without having any facts at all as soon as they receive a subpoena.

There's another guy in my old town who goes to mom and pop businesses and if they're violating some handicap access law, he sues and always wins. It's kind of sad. Of course, handicap laws are there for a reason and need to be observed. But he never goes after big abusers, just little guys struggling to survive who can't afford the legal fight. It's literally how he makes his living. Everyone knows about him, he was even written up in the local paper.

So that's the litigious society we live in. It's equal opportunity, too. Almost anyone can take advantage of the system. But my whole point was, people think they're anonymous on the internet, and they really aren't. All it takes is a subpoena, which anyone can get, and boom, you're being sued for libel, etc. It's rare that a company will stand up for their customer's right to privacy. Apple did recently because the scope of their argument went far beyond the terrorist the government was trying to locate, but your average website host won't think twice about throwing a user under the bus if it keeps their name out of a lawsuit.

LOL!! What a load of sh!t. You don't really expect anyone to believe this fantastical nonsense, do you?

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] centrd 7 years ago

uh...why would I make it up?

It's in the court records that can be searched online. But I'd never give you any names because I'm sure you'd be totally trustworthy with personal information based on the kindness you've already exhibited here.  I'd be happy to provide it to reasonable people if they also think I'm making it up for some bizarre reason.

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

If it took place in the courts, it's part of the public record. So post proof or admit you made all this up.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

You wouldn't believe the proof anyway.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

What makes you say that?

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Because you've been acting like an eight year old ever since you arrived to this board. But I enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself.

Type the names on the people on this board that don't think you act childish.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

So, according to you, posting an opinion of this show is considered "childish"...? ROFL!! Coming from a chubby, angry, lonely, lying, desperate and foolish woman like yourself, I'll take that as a compliment.

So like the majority of your posts, you don't really have anything to say, you just like posting nonsense to solicit responses.

kurt- "You won't believe it"

wolf- "Why not?"

kurt- "'Cuz your childish"

Pfft! Whatever.

Post something else, you foolish hag. LOL!!

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

So, according to you, posting an opinion of this show is considered "childish"...?

No. According to me, anything you post is childish.

ROFL!! Coming from a chubby, angry, lonely, lying, desperate and foolish woman like yourself, I'll take that as a compliment.

^ A perfect example of childish behavior.

you don't really have anything to say

Your IQ declines with every additional post on this board.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

No. According to me, anything you post is childish.

So sayeth the troll.

A perfect example of childish behavior.

Er, no. A perfect example of facts based on your posts and profile photo.

You're the fool that posted it all... own it!

Your IQ declines with every additional post on this board.

And yet it's still a good 50 or 60 points above yours.

So... IQ insults now? What`s next? You gonna say my 'mom wears army boots'? Your comments are getting more desperate, lame and nasty. Are you pms-ing?

LOL!!!

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

thank you for removing the posts that mixed my quotes with someone else's.

the comment wasn't intentionally directed at you, so it would take a rather ambitious attorney not to realize that you carpet bomb every thread on the board. Last announcement you publicly made stated you intended to block out thewolf(troll?) and not respond to his posts.

sorry if you ended up friendly fire collateral damage...
but it's like...you're micromanaging every comment posted on this board...hello?

People should be nicer to each other. The internet isn't nearly as anonymous as everybody thinks it is. All it takes is one fed up person, or one evil crackpot (I knew a guy who did this for kicks), and a person could end up spending a lot of money defending themselves.

your ongoing attempt to control other people's views on the board?

Suing internet users is not difficult at all.

Actually it's no more difficult than counter suiting for legal expenses

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[–] centrd 7 years ago

OMG, really? You're misquoting me yet again. I did not say what you just quoted me as saying:

Last announcement you publicly made stated you intended to block out thewolf(troll?) and not respond to his posts.

Wrong! I said nothing of the sort! Gawd, it's impossible talking to you because you get everybody's quotes all mixed up. I don't even know who this wolf person is.

AND you're misconstruing my other comments to boot. You brought up the legal aspect, not me. And I responded. But, as usual, you completely misconstrued everything I said. Not to mention, you clearly don't know how the law works. There's no law about posting a lot. Sheesh.

In the previous posts, you quoted my statement and then used somebody else's statements to claim I was contradicting myself. My question is, how can anything you say be taken seriously when you can't even keep people straight?

I'm not trying to control anything. Sounds like you're trying to control me. What I did, to make myself more comfortable, was put you on ignore so I wouldn't be subjected to the endless stream of rude comments you make about me. How is that me trying to control you? That's me controlling myself. I then decided I'd take you off ignore and try to engage with you like a normal person. But nope, immediate attacks and misquotes. I gave you fair warning that if you didn't correct the misquotes, I'd report you to the administrators of this site. If I wanted to "control you", I wouldn't have given you the chance to fix your errors. Or give you a chance to be a decent person. But nope, you just start up with the same garbage, misquoting me as usual and accusing me of things that aren't true.

This is pointless. I don't know what your problem is, but clearly, there's nothing I can do about it other than ignore you.

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

OMG

Could we keep the omg's down to one per week please. No one is that animated.

...sorry forgot you're an artist. my bad 

Wrong! I said nothing of the sort! Gawd, it's impossible talking to you because you get everybody's quotes all mixed up. I don't even know who this wolf person is.

I recall that you had some harsh things to say about wolfie. I mean...even harsh by 'kurt-troll' standards.
This poor puppy of a person was just trying to say that the series sucked and that cops murder people, that's all.

You brought up the legal aspect, not me.

whoa! no...people can clearly scroll up to clarify that your nose was growing with that whopper. I don't sue people. Even after all the nasty things you've said about me.  which might have been somewhat true.

This is pointless. I don't know what your problem is, but clearly, there's nothing I can do about it other than ignore you.

So I'm back on the 'time out/you're blocked' punishment again?

Another trip to the wood shed. ..sniff, sniff...

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

@kurt-2000

How does posting a simple opinion make one a "troll"? You do realize that the intended purpose of these boards is for people to share their opinions of various films, shows, characters, actors, crew, etc.?

Is everyone that shares an opinion here a "troll"? Or just those that you don't agree with?

LOL!! Foolish hag.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

How does posting a simple opinion make one a "troll"?

I wasn't the one who referred to you as a troll. Thus the reason for the parentheses.

This goes to show how you don't really pay attention to the conversation in print.

Corrected.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

So along with being a chubby, angry, lonely bull-dyke, you are also a liar.

Got it.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

The comments are still there, so re-read. I didn't call you troll. That would be too kind of a characterization. If I were to assign a name to you, it would be jackass.

Hope we're clear now?

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Like I said; chubby, angry, lonely, lying bull-dyke.

Truth hurts, huh?

Post something else, you foolish woman, this is amusing.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

You've made a complete fool of yourself here.

No self awareness.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

"No self-awareness". Bah-ha!! This from the desperate troll that continually begs for my attention with one asinine post after another.

These threads speak for themselves. I posted an opinion and tried to discuss the show. You post whatever random insulting nonsense you can think of, just so people will react to you.

The only "fool" here is you. From your posts it's clear that you are lonely, angry and desperate and from your profile photo it's clear that you are a chubby woman who styles herself as a stereo-typical bull-dyke, hoping to attract submissive lipstick lesbians. You can make-up all the baseless insults you like, they mean nothing. I'm just posting obvious facts. From your continued responses, it's clear that I have upset you. You can either move on and try to get over it, or you can continue posting, so that I may mock you further.

LOL!! This is fun...

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

stereo-typical bull-dyke, hoping to attract submissive lipstick lesbians.

...and I think we're done here.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

...and I think we're done here.

I doubt it. You just can't help yourself.

You are a typical troll with a severe case of must-have-last-word-itis.

I know you'll prove me right. Either here or somewhere else on this board...

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] Devon_Rex 7 years ago

So along with being a chubby, angry, lonely bull-dyke, you are also a liar.

Got it.

Wolf

Are you like this in real life or is it something you save up for the internet?

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago



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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

And you're no longer ignored. I'd say this is the start of a beautiful friendship. 
Don't the best love stories start with a bit of loathing? 

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Very funny.

That was nearly painful to read.

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

Really? I'm a sucker for such stories.
Well not here obviously. It was a joke. Failed attempt at humor. My apologies.

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

*sniff*

my feelings are hurt.

I'm going to call a lawyer

lol It's fine rat - I'll survive.

almost blew morning coffee out my nose... but I'm fine.

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

Almost. Thank god for that, coffee is sacred in my book.

But isn't suing a natural American response to just about anything? Or is that an unfounded stereotype?

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Unfortunately yes....

It's also what our president elect does when people say things he doesn't like.

It's called being 'Trump-bullied'.

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

Why does he need to sue? He's loaded already.

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

It's how he threatens and intimates people that anger him.

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[–] centrd 7 years ago

Yes, you would know all about "Trump Bullying", wouldn't you? I can't believe you say you're anti-Trump when you act just like him. The nonstop bullying. The misquotes, taking things out of context, making accusations about anything and everything despite not being true. And you have the same propensity for never being able to drop something and can apparently hold a grudge forever, even when someone tries to extend an olive branch. At least Trump seems to be able to keep his enemies straight and not think they're all the same person.

Great anti-Trump representative you are.

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Hey I just noticed this...

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

Off topic side bar issue...

.....favorite Cohen rendition of 'Hallelujah'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVe8SA_E0aM

"even when someone tries to extend an olive branch"

ok...for your viewing pleasure. Maze with pool sticks. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrGLmOZUAWQ

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[–] centrd 7 years ago

Ah, well, I'm slightly afraid it's a trick. But thanks. That was beautiful. I've listened to every version of the song I can get my hands on, and I love hearing people of all sorts singing that song.

Have you heard the one in the train station with 1500 people led by Rufus Wainwright?

http://www.classicalmpr.org/story/2016/07/28/rufus-wainwright-hallelujah-choir

Always chokes me up.

Hoping this is a new start for us.

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in" --Leonard Cohen

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

ok.

Thank you for the link.

😁

hey...we exchanged Christian songs on the 'Lucifer' board. Someone tell the 'one million protesting moms' it's going to be ok.

lol

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

by Rat_Lover >>

I think Kurt is responding to wolf-child

I wouldn't know, everything has been deleted.

, who seems to love police corruption.

LOL! Based on what?

We had an argument in another thread.

"We" did?

And now wolf-child is at it again.

I am?

He can't let go and needs people to say he was right in the post he started weeks ago.

Again, based on what? I posited a simple opinion. I supported it. Then briefly defended the tirade of insults from all the fan-trolls until I let it go as it wasn't worth my time.

With such a need to prove he's right, he's probably French. :D

With such a need to post such disingenuous bullsh!t, I'd say you're lying douche-bag. :D

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

Based on the many many messages you wrote on this thread and the other one.
And now resorting to insults. Did I hit a nerve? :D
I don't lie man, it was a joke. Lighten up.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Hey, I just responding to your directly quoted comments. You started with the insults and now you're crying about it? If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

You are a liar and I am entirely "light". For me this, this is amusement. For you, this is a desperate cry for attention. So, please... keep replying! LOL!!!

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

Insults? Where? I don't do insults.

I'm not crying, I'm laughing at you. By all means, keep going. It's good entertainment to wake me up from my boring work. 

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

It's the "child's" personal fantasy that his school yard banter is going to make people cry.

The perfect product of arrested development.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Must be laundry day. Time to get the socks out for a wash...

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

Sadly I don't understand what you meant.
By all means make fun of me, I'm sure you speak many languages fluently.
Or, I don't know, maybe you could explain...?

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

He speaks fluent jackass daily.

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

Indeed. :D
Would you know what the laundry thing means?

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

He told me in the 'deleted' thread that his panties bunched in the wash.

An unfortunate entanglement, since he'll be late for his Taco Bell shift in the morning, "pray tell".

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[–] Sandman-27 7 years ago

From Kurt:

He told me in the 'deleted' thread that his panties bunched in the wash.

An unfortunate entanglement, since he'll be late for his Taco Bell shift in the morning, "pray tell".

Insecure much Kurt?  Pray continue to everybody's glee. 

"You don't like Beethoven."

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Kurt is getting creepier and creepier by the post. Now openly fantasizing about male, teen-aged Taco Bell staffers wearing panties. Ugh.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

The reason Chloe didn't shoot her father's killer is more apparent than ever now. Lucifer himself called her "truly good". We now know she was created by God with a specific purpose. She has been touched by The Divine. Killing a perp would absolutely be out of character for her.

But we didn't know that then. I stand by the opinion that had she shot the guy, it would've made things interesting - at that time. Obviously, with what has been revealed it wouldn't suit the current narrative.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] delalluvia 7 years ago

See? That's just it. Now that Dan has done this, it has opened the door for all kinds of possibilities, both plot-wise and character development-wise. In other words, it makes the show more interesting. Had Dan rejected the idea of helping the mob kidnap Chloe's father's killer because "I'm a cop and can't do such a thing because of the code of ethics... that would've sucked. Just like when Chloe chose to not shoot her father's killer... the reaction of myself and many others was "Blah. How boring and predictable."

Not necessarily.

The mob may not even know who Dan is.

Maze made the call.

Dan didn't do anything but talk to the guy then walk away. The mob may just think he's some guy off the street.

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

It doesn't matter if the mob knows. Dan knows. And we the viewer know. Dan was clearly involved. To me, that makes things more interesting.

Do you not agree that was an interesting plot development?

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] Sunshine62 7 years ago

by thewolfchild:

It doesn't matter if the mob knows.

Well, knowing he's a cop that crossed the line ..they could use that as an advantage for them.

Dan knows. And we the viewer know. Dan was clearly involved.

According to me it was Dan's idea ..he asked Maze (being a Bounty hunter she would have quiet a few "friends" )to help him organise the whole thing.

To me, that makes things more interesting.

For sure.

Do you not agree that was an interesting plot development?

Yes , it was an unexpected event just like when we found out that Dan had shot Malcolm and Co, in the Palmetto case.

I don't think he would have done this , had Charolotte not used the information she "stole" from his cell, while he was sleeping off the active night he had with her.

He felt bad that the guilty warden got off.

I hope Chloe never finds out she would not agree with Dan's choice.

Chloe would have kept an eye on the warden and being the corrupt $hit he was sooner rather than later he would have been involved in something illegal again and Chloe would have nailed him.

If what Dan did comes out , it will destroy what's left of his relationship with Chloe....and Trixie would have a murderer and a con for a father.

Was it necessary for Dan to have one last say with the warden ?...I got this feeling that we will be seeing more of Dan's darkside in the near future.

even on a rainy day he brings sunshine to my life

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Well, knowing he's a cop that crossed the line...

Careful, there are some people here that insist that police NEVER "cross the line" and will go absolutely bat-sh!t crazy anytime anyone even suggests that they might cross the line, even in a fictional show.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] Sunshine62 7 years ago

By delalluvia :

The police didn't orchestrate it, Maze did. She was on the phone with the mobsters.

If it was Maze's idea there was no need for her to involve Dan...
She had the contacts .
Dan had the idea and asked Maze to give him a help in doing it, in my opinion.

even on a rainy day he brings sunshine to my life

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[–] litha-riddle 7 years ago

Although they both care about Chloe. I can understand them wanting to share vengeance on the man that hurt their friend.

Proud Lucifer addict.

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[–] Sunshine62 7 years ago

by litha -riddle:

Although they both care about Chloe. I can understand them wanting to share vengeance on the man that hurt their friend.

Yes both Dan and Maze care for Chloe.

I think the scene with Dan and the warden is revealing ..
Dan points out to the warden that he knows he murdered Decker's father and the guy who was going to testify against him and the warden in a very smug tone says ..:' but there is no evidence.'

I believe that Dan yield to the dark side only because he felt it was up to him to make thinks right
Had he not slept with Mom she would not have got her hands on his cell and information she used to favour the warden.

Had the warden got off for some other reason that didn't involve Dan , I think he would have kept his hands clean .

He would have helped Chloe try bring him down legally.

even on a rainy day he brings sunshine to my life

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[–] noother32 7 years ago

What innocent man?

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[–] barbarawstuller 7 years ago

And, of course, the ending was cool. The part where a police officer orchestrated the kidnapping of an innocent man by the Russian mob. This man will very likely be tortured and killed and Detective Douche is fully complicit in this crime. Wonder how this'll turn out...

He was NOT innocent. He was guilty as hell and got off on a technicality. Granted Dan was taking matters into his own (and Maze's) hands, which is not right, but I can totally see him doing this. He was after all the one behind Palmetto incident after all. So totally in character.

I really hope to see Dan and Maze partnering more often. I think they play very well together.

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Maybe they'll make a love connection Barb. lol

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Hey, I'm just going by what we saw on screen. He wasn't convicted of anything, so in the eyes of the law, he was an "innocent man".

Are you saying he deserved to have a rogue cop conspire to have him kidnapped, tortured and killed? I wouldn't disagree, but there are others on this board who would...

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

"by thewolfchild » Wed Nov 9 2016 07:22:26
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"Quite the opposite. I just find them boring and predictable. This is why this show won't last very long. (and I would think this would be of concern for all the hard-core fans in this thread who are getting their panties in wad over the slightest criticism of this show)."

A few weeks ago, the child hated it.



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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

by kurt-2000 »

A few weeks ago, thewolfchild hated it.

I didn't say I "hated" it, but I - like many, many others - do have some criticisms. You seem to think this show is perfect. What strange woman you are...

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Re: Fail.

by
thewolfchild
» Tue Nov 8 2016 15:02:53 Flag ▼

"It's so predictable, anti-climatic and... lame.

... this show strives for mediocrity."

[Sounds to me like you hate it, child.

"by thewolfchild » Wed Nov 9 2016 07:22:26
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"Quite the opposite. I just find them boring and predictable. This is why this show won't last very long. (and I would think this would be of concern for all the hard-core fans in this thread who are getting their panties in wad over the slightest criticism of this show)."

A few weeks ago, the child hated it.

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[–] 7 years ago

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[–] litha-riddle 7 years ago

Check out the big man nerd raging. Did someone not get hugged enough as a child?

Proud Lucifer addict.

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[–] 7 years ago

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

Or rocked too close to the wall. :D

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

by litha-riddle »

Check out the big man nerd raging. Did someone not get hugged enough as a child?

Bah-ha! You reported my post? It must've hit pretty close to the mark, huh?

What was it I wrote again? Oh yeah;

"Yes, you are a nerd, thanks for the admission. You have a strange definition of the word "rage". And no, I'm not interested in getting a "hug" from some creepy douche-bag offering "hugs" to random men on the internet ("hug" being code for...?) You must be confusing IMDb with your Grindr app."

...or something like that. LOL!!

Go ahead, report me again, you big baby. IMDb admins just love people like you that abuse the report function.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] litha-riddle 7 years ago

Lol I didn't report you. But props for trying.

Proud Lucifer addict.

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

He didn't get reported. That's just more wolf poop.

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[–] litha-riddle 7 years ago

No wonder its getting so fragrant around here lol.

Proud Lucifer addict.

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

What is wrong with him? Could you teach him how to overcome his troll phase?

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Like said... laundry day.

Oh, and in case you missed it;

"This message has been deleted by an administrator"

That's what happens when some delicate little thing gets all upset and uses the report function. IMDb admins don't just delete random posts.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

I further pointed out that the show does have some flaws and room for improvement. This could be said of most shows.

by
thewolfchild
» Tue Nov 8 2016 15:02:53 Flag ▼

"It's so predictable, anti-climatic and... lame.

... this show strives for mediocrity."

No liar. You said the show is lame, strives for mediocrity and it's predictable. That's hate. Not "some flaws" or "room for improvement".

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[–] Rat_lover 7 years ago

With your guidance he will come to love this show. 

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

He's now claiming to be a fan.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

You said the show is lame, strives for mediocrity and it's predictable. That's hate.

No, that's disappointment with the writing decisions made in that episode, moron. You really are a sensitive chick if you equate mild criticism with hatred.

He's now claiming to be a fan.

Who? Me? Show where I said that.

I said I watch the show. That doesn't necessarily make me a fan.

Do you really need attention that badly that you have to constantly lie and make things up just to get a response?

You have my pity, you weird old hag.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

No, that's disappointment with the writing decisions made in that episode

You're a liar. You hate this series.

I said I watch the show. That doesn't necessarily make me a fan.

I doubt you watch the show.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

You're a liar. You hate this series.

Prove it. Link one comment where I said I "hate" it.

Or admit you're the liar here, you foolish woman.

I doubt you watch the show.

sigh... OK, I'll bite. You say this based on...?

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

I've already responded to these requests.

...and we're done here.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

I've already responded to these requests.

Sure... with juvenile insults. You did not, however, post any links to support your comments as requested. So obviously you can't support your claims and now you're trying to bail, instead of making a further fool of yourself. And, of course, trying to do so with the last word. LOL!! I looove being proven right.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Fail.

by thewolfchild » Thu Nov 10 2016 21:12:15 Flag ▼ | Reply |
IMDb member since July 2004
Post Edited: Thu Nov 10 2016 21:15:44

"LOL!! You seriously believe that? What are you, 12 years old? The police murder people everyday in real life. Perhaps if you watched more news and less tranny porn, you'd know that."

Here's the proof you lied, again.

Here's your ugly, bigoted stereotype:

The police murder people everyday in real life.

You're busted again.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

LOL! "Busted" how? Prove to us exactly how I lied, or admit that you are just a crazy, lonely old woman desperate for attention.

And by the way, this game you're playing, where you post random, completely unrelated quotes and claim they say something they so obviously don't is getting sooo old.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] merh 7 years ago

Pass.
by thewolfchild » 1 hour ago (Tue Nov 29 2016 05:12:18)
IMDb member since July 2004
Tonight's episode was very interesting indeed. Halfway through I found myself looking up who the director and writers were. There were several quirky and humorous scenes, interesting character building moments and huge plot twist.

And, of course, the ending was cool. The part where a police officer orchestrated the kidnapping of an innocent man by the Russian mob. This man will very likely be tortured and killed and Detective Douche is fully complicit in this crime. Wonder how this'll turn out...

You mean the officer who shot another officer to protect his wife, but then didn't mention it while many of their coworkers hated her?
The officer who stole a gun out of evidence?

That the officer you're worried about?

Don't take life too seriously.
You'll never get out alive
-Elbert Hubbard

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

by merh »

You mean the officer who shot another officer to protect his wife, but then didn't mention it while many of their coworkers hated her?
The officer who stole a gun out of evidence?

That the officer you're worried about?

Me? I'm not worried about any officers on the show. But some here clearly are in denial such actions ever even took place because they violate the "code of ethics" LOL!!

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] merh 7 years ago

I honestly can't watch most cop shows because they are so far outside what we are allowed to do if we follow the ethics code.

Most of these cases wouldn't stick for what tv cops do.

This involves a fallen angel pitting it in the realm of fake most assuredly

Don't take life too seriously.
You'll never get out alive
-Elbert Hubbard

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

"We"...? So you claim to be on the job?

Forgive my skepticism, but most cops don't advertise the fact they're cops and most cops claiming to be cops on here really aren't. But if you are, who am I say otherwise. Cheers.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] merh 7 years ago

Law enforcement.
Not cop.

21 yrs

Don't take life too seriously.
You'll never get out alive
-Elbert Hubbard

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[–] litha-riddle 7 years ago

You must not know many cops. The ones I know are very proud of their job. It takes a lot of hard work and a good spirit to make a good cop, why shouldn't they be proud?

They get a lot of crap for the heroic job they do. There may be some bad apples but I'd still call on them if I was in danger.

Proud Lucifer addict.

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[–] merh 7 years ago

We aren't supposed to identify ourselves. My boss reminded me when I went to Comic-con not to mention where I worked.

We can say the field (law enforcement), but the specifics-cop, security guard, etc-is secret.

Don't take life too seriously.
You'll never get out alive
-Elbert Hubbard

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[–] litha-riddle 7 years ago

Maybe it's different here in the UK? But I've known a couple of cops that were proud to admit it.

Having been a victim of crime I cannot thank the officers that helped me enough.

Proud Lucifer addict.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

We aren't supposed to identify ourselves. My boss reminded me when I went to Comic-con not to mention where I worked.

We can say the field (law enforcement), but the specifics-cop, security guard, etc-is secret.

A "security guard" is considered "law enforcement"...?

Umm... no.

And your boss told you that you aren't allowed to tell people what your job is? Is that an actual policy or just something he decided to impose on his own?

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Is that an actual policy or just something he decided to impose on his own?

Why would you care? You claimed that cops are murders. Not 'some cops have murdered, or a small percentage murdered', but cops are murderers.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Why would you care?

What's it to you? I wasn't even replying to you. Are you that obsessed with me that you must interject yourself into conversations that have nothing to do with you?

You claimed that cops are murders. Not 'some cops have murdered, or a small percentage murdered', but cops are murderers.

Again... provide a link to a post by me with that exact quote. If you can't, then we will all see you for the desperate, trolling, lying asswipe that you clearly are...

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

What's it to you?

Your blather and board pollution? Buzz off if you hate everyone. lol

I wasn't even replying to you.

I don't care.

Are you that obsessed with me

No one is obsessed with you. You're like a moving dart board that people can throw insults at, you jackass.

provide a link to a post by me with that exact quote

Re-read your own posts. You stereotyped cops as killers. You made no distinct of what percentage of cops go bad. You simply typed: "cops". Now you've been shamed in public for you bigotry. lol

HEY EVERYONE...want to see wolfboy get busted? Here's the proof he requested in his post above.

Thread title:

Fail.
image for user thewolfchild
by thewolfchild » Thu Nov 10 2016 21:12:15 Flag ▼ | Reply |
IMDb member since July 2004
Post Edited: Thu Nov 10 2016 21:15:44
Because cops are held to strict laws forbidding murder or vigilante revenge, and it's a violation of the police moral code of ethics.

LOL!! You seriously believe that? What are you, 12 years old? The police murder people everyday in real life. Perhaps if you watched more news and less tranny porn, you'd know that."

I'll post it for everyone again...

"The police murder people everyday in real life. Perhaps if you watched more news and les"

Once again...to highlight his exchange and challenge.

Kurt: You claimed that cops are murders. Not 'some cops have murdered, or a small percentage murdered', but cops are murderers.

Wolfboy: Again... provide a link to a post by me with that exact quote. If you can't, then we will all see you for the desperate, trolling, lying asswipe that you clearly are...

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

by kurt-2000 »

Blah-blah-blobbity-blah-blah-blah-blaaaahhh...

You really are a foolish twat if you think anybody is gonna read all that. Now-a-days, when I see its you posting to me, I just go right to the reply button to remind you that your obsession with me just gets creepier and creepier by the post.

It's because of people like you that these boards are shutting down. I have no idea what you'll do after, since this seems to be all you have in life. No more IMDb, just you, all alone; a deranged old lady in a house full of cats. I suppose you'll kill yourself. Oh, don't end it all! You have so much to live fo... LOL!! Nevermind, no one one's going believe that. So yeah, go ahead and stick your head in the oven. So long, you fat b!tch.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

when I see its you posting to me

December 12th

You really are a foolish twat

It's more likely your foul language caused the problem.

suppose you'll kill yourself. Oh, don't end it all! You have so much to live fo... LOL!! Nevermind, no one one's going believe that. So yeah, go ahead and stick your head in the oven. So long, you fat b!tch.

And wishing people commit suicide....

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

by kurt-2000 »

Blah.

by kurt-2000 »

Blah.

by kurt-2000 »

Blah.

Yawn.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] merh 7 years ago

Re: Pass.
by thewolfchild » Sun Dec 4 2016 17:13:38
IMDb member since July 2004
Post Edited: Sun Dec 4 2016 17:15:44
We aren't supposed to identify ourselves. My boss reminded me when I went to Comic-con not to mention where I worked.

We can say the field (law enforcement), but the specifics-cop, security guard, etc-is secret.

A "security guard" is considered "law enforcement"...?

Umm... no.

And your boss told you that you aren't allowed to tell people what your job is? Is that an actual policy or just something he decided to impose on his own?

I'm in a position I can get the annual law enforcement discount at Knotts Berry Farm. Every year around Thanksgiving we get a free entry. Or we did last I used it 6 yrs ago.

although even that is up for debate. Depends who the Chief is.

We aren't supposed to benefit from our position.

And yes, it was department policy not to say where we work. Last ethics class I attended they told us those school things where the parent comes to talk about their job? We are to inform public affairs and they will send someone from that office to represent the department.

The biggest thing about the department is not to cause embarrassment.

This is the reason we are to keep mum.

My clients are, for the most part, convicted felons. Today I had to order a corrected court order where a client was accidentally mis-sentenced. Years instead of months.

It's really not hard to figure out.

Fascists decide that you are a criminal, then they find the crime

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

My clients are, for the most part, convicted felons. Today I had to order a corrected court order where a client was accidentally mis-sentenced. Years instead of months.

It's really not hard to figure out.

Sounds like it could be Probation and Parole, but who knows? Apparently you're not allowed to say (even on a random message board with a completely anonymous account... )

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

Sounds like it could be Probation and Parole,

No, they're shutting down the message boards.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

No, chocolate is better than strawberry for ice cream, it's the other way around for yogurt. Idiot.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

But some here clearly are in denial such actions ever even took place because they violate the "code of ethics" LOL!!

The 'child' stated that "cops are murders". He never said SOME cops have murdered - just cops (period). Then when he got busted making generalities, he went into denial. I can copy and post his comments if he goes into denial again.

Then he claimed that each department doesn't have a code of ethics, and that no such codes of ethical conduct exists. After a three minute Google he got busted on that stupid comment as well.

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[–] litha-riddle 7 years ago

No wonder he's been on a deleting spree. It must be hard being wrong all the time.

Proud Lucifer addict.

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[–] kurt-2000 7 years ago

It must be hard being wrong all the time.

Or it must be wrong being hard all the time. This clown is a total exhibitionist.

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[–] litha-riddle 7 years ago

Heh at least its free entertainment while we wait for more Lucifer.

Proud Lucifer addict.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

"Deleting spree"...? I haven't deleted a single post. Kurt deleted a bunch somewhere, but I haven't. Is this all you losers are going to do to now...? make stuff up without ever supporting it?

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

The 'thewolfchild' stated that "cops are murders". He never said SOME cops have murdered - just cops (period). Then when he got busted making generalities, he went into denial. I can copy and post his comments if he goes into denial again.

Then he claimed that each department doesn't have a code of ethics, and that no such codes of ethical conduct exists. After a three minute Google he got busted on that stupid comment as well.

Yawn.

Post a link or admit you're full of sh!t.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] iabanon 7 years ago

OMG the warden WAS NOT AN INNOCENT MAN. he got off on a technicality and he murdered at least two people. family of one victim want revenge. they were simply told who was responsible. warden was evil and had it coming.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

by iabanon »

OMG the warden WAS NOT AN INNOCENT MAN. he got off on a technicality and he murdered at least two people. family of one victim want revenge. they were simply told who was responsible. warden was evil and had it coming.

And I agree with you. I just thought that, at the time, had Chloe shot him, that would've made for some interesting storytelling. But they've gone in another direction and I'm ok with that too. Strange how some others are sooo bent out of shape though, that they keep contradicting themselves...

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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[–] BlueeyedSara 7 years ago

the part where a police officer orchestrated the kidnapping of an innocent man by the Russian mob.

I am not defending Dan or Maze because what they did was both illegal and immoral, but this guy was acquitted - he wasn't innocent, and that is an important distinction.

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[–] thewolfchild 7 years ago

Some people feel that "not guilty" and "innocent" are synonymous. I don't really care either way.

Wolf

"I Drank What?!" - Socrates

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