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All together now...'It's JUST a movie!' Gees....

posted 8 years ago by cochrandarin
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Well, the IMDB hasn't changed. Still the same ol same. Everybody crucifying a movie because it's.....gasp!....'unbelievable' in spots. Holy Cow people, it's a freakin movie. I watched it with my fam last night. We had some chocolate chip cookies, watched the movie, laughed, cringed, gasped for breath, and ultimately enjoyed it.

Was this an Oscar worthy movie? no

Was this the best movie I've ever seen? no

Was it the worst movie I've ever seen? no

Was it unbelievable in spots?...uh, yeah. But so was Jaws...you know, they could have just injected some potassium cyanide into a piece of Bonita and threw it out there for the shark to eat and ol Quint would have lived instead of going through all the trouble of tagging it with those freakin barrells...gees.

Was this movie fun to watch? Yeah, I guess if you have a fun family to be around and you aren't a wannabe critic who likes dissecting movies on the IMDB because they do not match up to 'Lord of the Rings', 'Aliens' or 'Shawshank Redemption' and you can watch a freakin movie and not worry about the laws of Physics.

Is Blake Lively hot? uh, yeah

My personal opinion? Get rid of the IMDB and Rottan Tomatoes. These web sites are what really insults our intelligence...but that's just me.

There's my analysis....let the stoning begin. (Yawn)

[–] cynthmauch 8 years ago

I didn't crucify the movie, but this is a message board for people to speak freely about all topics pertaining to the particular movie, so I don't personally have a problem with people bemoaning how unrealistic it was. This is the forum for that sort of discussion. IMDB would be awfully boring if everyone just stuck to commenting on whether it is entertaining or not, and if the lead is hot or not.

[–] cochrandarin 8 years ago

And as I said....that's 'just my opinion' as well. I don't have a problem with folks discussing stuff like this. I pity them and wish for them to find a great hobby or a girlfriend or something sometimes...but not a problem. (wink)

[–] cynthmauch 8 years ago

Maybe they're just bored at work like I am?

[–] leiastarkiller 8 years ago

Yeah I agree. It was obviously a little silly but it held my attention, I was never bored, it was fun to watch. It was a good little popcorn flick. Movies can just be fun sometimes, I think I'd eventually die of boredom if I only ever watched Oscar worthy movies.

[–] [email protected] 8 years ago

Oh thank you so much. Couldn't have said it better!

[–] Daimaju 8 years ago

MuH it'Z JuHSt a MovEh!!11one

That's what idiot people who deliver this "argument" sound like.
By that nonsense-logic, nothing at all would matter.

Just a movie.
Just a game.
Just a car.
Just a dinner.
Just a screwdriver.

No.

Things have value, or should have. There are *beep* movies, there are good movies.
The ridiculous BS that happens in that movie drags it down, makes it worse than it could have been. That is why people complain, because they expected more but didn't get it due to people like you who eat *beep* and smile.

But what am I wasting my time.
People retarded enough to bring that sort of "argument" won't understand the difference anyways.

These web sites are what really insults our intelligence...but that's just me.

Well, I laughed. While you're right about the descent of these sites, you can hardly play the intelligence-card here after pulling that "juHs'T a M0veH111" *beep* really.

How ridiculous of people to expect more from a film other than the most brain-dead "entertainment" while eating chocolate cookies. God forbid a movie might provoke thoughts, moves you, inspires you... because it is good and works out inbstead of being predictable, breaks every law of physics or just ignores plot holes because "meh who cares, it's just a movie afterall!".

Jesus how dare anyone to expect such things! -.-

[–] cochrandarin 8 years ago

Uh...ok. Take a deep breath there fella. In the nose, out the mouth.

I was going to refer you to a good dating site a guy told me about, cause I thought, 'This guy needs a girlfriend.', but the more I read....hmmm...let me refer you to a friend of mine from college. He's a great therapist and he can sit and listen to you tell him ALL about it. You can tell him all about those mean ol movies that are full of cgi special effects that are destroying the very fabric of humanity. He also has some cool ray guns in his office that he might even let you play with so you can fly out there in space and kill some aliens! Want that be fun! He can also prescribe you some stuff to take and I promise you'll feel all better real soon. Meanwhile, have your mother put away all of the knives in the house....gees.....

[–] Daimaju 8 years ago

Ah yes, 100% personal attacks, condescending tone, implying the opponent is a child (because he called your BS out, I see...)and "muh I'm so surpuriur!" attitude while offering zero, absolutely zero argumentation - just as I expected.

Thank you for proving my point so perfectly.

[–] cochrandarin 8 years ago

You're joking right. You are going to attack me for using a 'condescending tone'? Let's review the things you said to me in your first post...

'people retarded enough'
'people like you who eat *beep*'
'you can hardly play the intelligence-card...'
'idiot people who deliver this "argument"

None of that would classify as personal attacks or condescending? You're the one who needs to be banned from this stinking forum. Don't give me some hypocrisy about responding to you with 'argumentation'. After spewing all of that garbage, how did you expect ANYBODY to respond?

[–] Daimaju 8 years ago

I'm not "attacking" you for doing that, I pointed out that you never had a single argument - and you still don't have - and all you do is being a dick.
Was I insulting you, aggressive, etc.?
Totally, because look at the *beep* you wrote in your OP alone.
But unlike you, I delivered a point, an argument.

Now cry more and throw out some more insults...
And don't forget "it'Z juHsT a Me$$aGe Boarht!"

Ugh -.-

[–] cochrandarin 8 years ago

Uh...ok. If I didn't have a LIFE, I would continue responding to...to....whatever it is you are trying to say in these ridiculous posts. I started to tell you to get your toys and go to your room and let the adults talk, because I was convinced that you MUST be a kid. But now, I'm sure about it, you my friend are in need of some serious medication. I hope you get the help you need. Good luck and farewell.

[–] Daimaju 8 years ago

Ah, what a collection of internet-insult classics!

- continue to try to insult your opponent as a kid "just because"
- further ignore any point your opponent made and brush it off with a fake-superiority-attitude
- be a broken record about mental health issues/medication (reflecting much?)
- be sarcastically 'friendly' (we now all know you're American)
- use the "muh gotza real lifeh!" ejection-seat to cover the fact that you don't have, and never had, anything of value to say in the first place and just discovered your own embarrassment, yet pride will never allow you to be the better man and see that.

You belong in a museum, really.

[–] BrunoAntony 8 years ago

Dude, this guy is dominating you in the argument. Just give up.

Due to the lack of moderators, trolls can ruin the IMDB message boards. Don't feed them.

[–] marcelbank 8 years ago

You're trashing people for trashing a movie, I'm really not sure if that's any better than the ones trashing the movie.. it certainly sounds worse.

[–] Maniac_In_Black 7 years ago

Aha

[–] alextorn 8 years ago

I totally agree with Daimaju.

This movie is an insulting and nonsensical turd.

Even worse, some people with little shark knowledge tend to believe some of the bs displayed in this movie.
Just browse this forum and you'll see what I'm talking about: "the shark is territorial and defends the whale carcass", "the shark is aggressive towards humans because it has a hook in his jaw",...

As I said in another posts, there is nothing wrong about enjoying this movie, we all enjoy some crappy stuff at some points. But to claim that this movie is good or great, you must seriously lack of braincells..

[–] ArtofAlmost11 7 years ago

The difference between just a *insert piece of fiction here* and just a *insert real life thing here* is that criticising a piece of fiction for not being realistic makes no sense because, y'know, it's fiction, it's not supposed to be realistic... In fact, it's usually the most unrealistic concepts that provoke thoughts and move people. Like say... 2001: A Space Odyssey, a movie about an extra-terrestrial monolith that powers evolution for reasons - completely unrealistic in every conceivably way, but it has moved and inspired people for decades.

[–] NightFeather 7 years ago

I would argue that people complain, just for the sake of complaining. There are some seriously miserable people out there who have nothing better to do than bring others down with them. Some people go into a movie thinking it's going to be terrible and that's all they see, there is a word for it I can't remember what it's called.

Also you're condescending attitude is not needed. I'm assuming you're an adult, so act like one instead of a petulant child.

[–] fsidhu 8 years ago

Correction to your post:

Was this movie fun to watch? Yeah, if you are either stupid and will watch any old crap just because or you have literally nothing better to do with your time and you have reached a point in life where pretty much anything will entertain you. Otherwise, this movie will insult your intelligence.

[–] cochrandarin 8 years ago

Those are broad and strange assumptions. I've seen a lot worse movies than this...to say people are 'stupid'...?...how can you make a comment like that? I think Citizen Kane is not a good movie, but I wouldn't call someone stupid for liking it.

Oh, wait...maybe you DON'T think Blake Lively is hot? Or, uh...scrap that, maybe you are a girl...or uh...maybe you're...nevermind.

[–] Jose_Accent_On_E 7 years ago

Oh, wait...maybe you DON'T think Blake Lively is hot? Or, uh...scrap that, maybe you are a girl...or uh...maybe you're...nevermind.

Hmm... Let I see if I can draw the correct inference. If you don't think that Lively Blake is hot, then you must be GAY. I guess that needs to added to the internet insults classics.

Personally, I, myself think that Lively has spent too much time in the sun for the word "hot" to be used as a descriptive, unless you're talking about her skin temperature. Either that or the "stylistical" director needs to stop using ultra ultra close-ups.

[–] danloki 8 years ago

This goes in the So Bad It's Funny category for me. That script is hilarious. I cant decide if it's an unintentional comedy or the writer is on mushrooms. And how much was Steven paid to stick around. This was a steaming pile of shark poop but I was in the mood to just switch off and enjoy a ridiculous movie, and I was happy to see that Steven survived.

[–] lars-wadefalk 8 years ago

Agree completely with OP.

Some people expect every movie to beat The Godfather or become the Oscar winner of the year.

I really enjoyed it, the tension was utterly great. Her struggle to survive is the key thing here. It doesn't have to be realistic, it's a movie ffs.

[–] Leroy_Johanson 8 years ago

Really great comment, I've totally agree. Not much else to mention really because I really love the movie and anyone that is as positive against their entertainment is a plus for me. One thing for sure, I always thought that, when I'm literally close to my death one day, I just kept thinking whether all those complaints, insults and aggravation that we all did back when we were healthy and moving is all really worth it. In the end, it's only entertainment, and giving mockery to it and being a "tryhard" would only waste time and aren't going to be necessary in helping us passing over to a peaceful life after death. I'm grown out of the phase of doing complaints against entertainment, and enjoyed this movie a lot better than a lot of people here apparently and I'm sure as hell like the experience.

[–] danloki 8 years ago

One thing for sure, I always thought that, when I'm literally close to my death one day, I just kept thinking whether all those complaints, insults and aggravation that we all did back when we were healthy and moving is all really worth it.

If on your death bed you are thinking about complaints on the internet about movies by strangers is all you have to take with you, that's a bit sad.

[–] Leroy_Johanson 8 years ago

It's a general consensus actually. Don't know why you need to intepret it so negatively. And beside, try thinking about it, and you might catch my drift. Hell yeah, there's so much other things to think about when your time has come, and doing all these random nonsense is one of them. Regrets will run down through your head like a wave, well at least that's what a friend of mine had told as he had nearly died once.I don't really actually care what you strangers out there are complaining about anyway, what I meant is the faults of our choosing.

[–] danloki 8 years ago

Please forgive me if I'm not crying about some random stranger on The Shallows board when I;m on my deathbed.

[–] pinkled5 8 years ago

When a filmmaker breaks a viewer's suspension of disbelief, especially repeatedly, it can do wonders for lowering their opinion of that film. Some viewers, such as yourself, may have a higher tolerance for this, but many viewers simply cannot recover their interest or immersion in a story once that happens, thus the complaints and low ratings.

[–] cochrandarin 8 years ago

True I suppose...but it makes one wonder what do people really look for in the 'movie experience'? If folks are always looking for a movie that is vigorously true to life with no infractions into the realm of disbelief, gees...what kind of movies are like that? Does that person not like science fiction or the horror genre or a good action movie, where practically every movie requires a suspension of disbelief?

Again, in my original post I pointed out 'Jaws', who everyone thinks is wonderful, and so do I. But gees man...you trying to tell me that it never occurred to them that they could just dangle some bloody trigger fish off the side and when the stinking shark came up to get them, pop it in the head with that bolt action rifle? Or as I said, stick some cyanide in a bonita and throw it out there and kill the dang thing in 30 seconds.

I guess some folks don't like a movie if it isn't some real life collection of scenes that just look like...well, real life. But that's why we watch movies right, to entertain ourselves and escape the monatony OF real life? Maybe that's why I didn't like Citizen Kane...I dunno. But, to each his own I guess....

[–] danloki 8 years ago

It just comes down to taste and what mood people are in when they watch something. I enjoyed it because I was in the right mood. Had some very stressy moments, the over the top vigilante shark was fun, good looking film, but I did have issues with some elements. Each to their own.

[–] pinkled5 8 years ago

If folks are always looking for a movie that is vigorously true to life with no infractions into the realm of disbelief, gees...what kind of movies are like that?

Suspension of disbelief does not mean only showing true, realistic events. It means depicting unrealistic, even impossible events in a way that suspends the viewers sense of disbelief. There are a number of ways a filmmaker can do this.

For example, in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade there is a scene where Indiana smashes a hole through the floor of a famous library. Our sense of disbelief should have been triggered, wondering why such vandalistic noises were not investigated and stopped by library staff, but that disbelief was suspended by the corresponding scene of the librarian thinking that it was his stamp that was making the sound.

This is just one example, and there are many ways to suspend disbelief. This movie, The Shallows, made no attempt to do this. They presented unrealistic, impossible events with nothing to explain them or mitigate the viewers sense of disbelief.

[–] cochrandarin 8 years ago

No offense to what you're saying but that sounds like someone who puts waaaaay to much thought into a movie. Ok, when Andy knocks the hole in the pipe, in Shawshank Redemption, he first shines his light in a little 10 inch hole and looks around. Next thing you know, he's crawling through the pipe. Are we too believe that he was able to keep knocking out a big ol hole big enough for a grown man to crawl into within the next few minutes during that storm without anybody noticing? But again....I didn't set there and think, 'Darn those producers for insulting our intelligence! I think I'll put this movie on the garbage list!'

Maybe your right, I have a higher tolerance for such things I guess, or maybe it's not THAT important to analyze a movie with that much scrutiny to me. Afterall, we are watching if for entertainment purposes right?

[–] pinkled5 8 years ago

when Andy knocks the hole in the pipe, in Shawshank Redemption, he first shines his light in a little 10 inch hole and looks around. Next thing you know, he's crawling through the pipe. Are we too believe that he was able to keep knocking out a big ol hole big enough for a grown man to crawl into within the next few minutes during that storm without anybody noticing?

That's a great example of another method a filmmaker uses to suspend a viewer's disbelief: by not showing the parts that are impossible to believe, and by focusing on the result instead of the logistical details of the operation.

With most movies, if we analyze them enough we can find holes in the plot or examples of unrealism, but the key is for it not to be so egregious that it breaks our immersion while we're watching the movie.

[–] cochrandarin 8 years ago

You sound like a true expert in the field, if you aren't a movie critic, you ought to be! lol

[–] pinkled5 8 years ago

You sound like a true expert in the field, if you aren't a movie critic, you ought to be! lol

Ha ha! I'll take that as a compliment.

Glad you were able to enjoy the movie. Don't let us naysayers get you down! :)