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Why the ending isn't stupid!!!!


I watched this movie and I loved it.. The message behind it, the eccentric idea of a movie that was beautiful..

Like you, mid-way through watching the movie my mind kept thinking of solutions to why Hank is talking to a corpse and using him to survive..My mind thought of many things:

1) That Hank was crazy and he is just imaging all this stuff.

2) Hank was just dragging a dead body this whole time and he was just talking to himself.

3) After the suicide attempt at the beginning, I thought he actually didn't survive and infact died, he was imagining all of that at the last few moments of his life while he was choking to death.

But then I realized that the ending Manny was actually real and Hank wasn't crazy..

If you listen closely Hank through out the movie keeps telling us that, "Maybe I am just starving and you're a hallucination" and other such things.. They did that on purpose to keep our minds thinking of what the ending might be and we were all wrong!

The whole movie is about hank "Overthinking" things, and here we were watching the movie overthinking the ending when It was just real! We totally put the theory out that, "Hey, what If Manny was a special multi purpose tool corpse guy...". We NEVER thought of that because we were again, OVERTHINKING the ending, much like Hank.

So It was kind of a message to stop overthinking things, maybe things are just what they seem :)

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I loved it!

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It's definitely a movie set up to interpret different ways. I think there's some key evidence shown in the movie that disproves your theory, though. The movie is a mix of real and imagined things. There was a dead body. No, he didn't talk, shoot rock bullets, chop wood, etc. You can't even say it's all a dream in his dying moments because of all the stuff at the end.

Hank was never lost. Hank was a depressed, super creepy stalker that found a dead body. He didn't happen to find his way out of the woods right at the girls house he's been stalking by coincidence. He was camped there the entire time. Hank slid down the hill and got to it, and the little girl was easily able to sneak off and walk there. He was probably going up there to find supplies and at some point somehow went and stole Sarah's diary, which you see she wrote in on the bus and was found in his camp. Hank is also not completely delusional to the point where he truly thinks it was all real. This is why when he realizes they found his camp he says "oh *beep*, they are going to see everything" meaning he understands what he is doing is super creepy.

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Dude you are a friggen genius!

Best explanation and most logical one ever... Post it on the boards man!

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yeah..i think he built all the things from the stuff he stole from them

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Wow Boova. It's amazing how other people interpret the film. I loved it on so many levels. I thought Manny dragged him to the womans house because that was the plan all along to get him to the girl he never spoke with before. I never even thought he was a creepy stalker and camped outside her house, but after thinking about everything you said it totally makes sense. Im glad Manny was REAL at the end. That would have ruined the movie is Hank was really crazy. In a way he is, but at the end he realizes what he's done and moves on like Manny. Thanks for your thoughts on the film.

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I watched the ending, where Sarah sees the diary at the camp, a couple of times. It looks like that diary was handmade by Hank, like everything else. Compared the to the real one, that was in the picture on his phone.

There's a youtube video of the ending, the diary is shown at 1:51.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tKHMZd1fYk

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Best explanation out there, but I'd like to hear the real explanation coming out of the directors' mouth, because it still doesn't explain the very ending where Manny "sails out" with his farts. Was that part of Hank's imagination? Maybe his fantasy so that no one would think he was insane?
The direction was superb, I must admit, but they could have been better at narrating the story or pinpointing the most important events because no matter if you want to make the most controversial film out there, there should be a minimum amount of objectivity so that everyone can get to a logical and different conclusion. However, this movie fails to do this.
Don't get me wrong. I very much enjoyed this movie A LOT. The most interesting indie film I've seen in months, but the ending kept me thinking too much, even researching for any common explanations, which even with that I could not find what the directors were trying to tell us.
8/10.

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you might have been right, if it wasnt for the ending.

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Just wanted to say - the diary we see in the bus model is NOT Sarah's diary. Look at the photo of Sarah writing on the bus Vs the book in the bus tree house. They are not the same book! The book on Hank's bus is clearly handmade. It's a mimic of Sarah's notebook not the real thing.

I don't think Hank stole ANYTHING from Sarah. I think the only thing that Hank ever took from the neighborhood near the woods was trash. Hank only took things that nobody wanted anymore.

The clue is in the raccoons we see throughout the film. Raccoons are nocturnal creatures that scavenge from trashcans at night. Hank was living like a raccoon. That's why at one point in the movie we see Hank wearing animal furs with a nose and whiskers drawn on his face.

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I think that was just another subversion.

This movie attempts to defy the viewers' expectations at every turn so it wouldn't be surprising if the narrative structure itself was dubious. At the beginning of the film, savvy viewers are likely to expect it's a film like the short An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge or Jacob's Ladder where the protagonist has been dead the entire time. (Spoiler tag just in case you haven't seen those films). It's also hinted throughout that the protagonist might just be a crazy man. The ending seems to confirm that but then yanks that explanation away and the viewer is left to question what the hell they just watched.

The point is that none of it is true. It's just a film and films are fake and maybe reality is riddled with fakeness as well. This underlying message is hinted at by frequent roleplay by the protagonist, the need to watch your language and behave differently around others, and most importantly how intangible identity is throughout the film. It's all about artifice and how people spend much of their lives pretending for one reason or another while remaining "islands" deep down.

Is that a deep message? Well, no. It's almost juvenile. Just like fart jokes are juvenile. The film is having a laugh at people trying to shoehorn it into a realistic context, when in fact, it is fiction to begin with and therefore not real and the film knows it and plays with your expectations of what a film should be and maybe makes you question just how artificial you can be at times despite your actual desires. There's a reason Cotton Eye Joe by Rednex and the Jurassic Park theme are featured prominently-- the former is a polished, artificial rendition of a classic folk song and the latter is related to a film that presents ancient dinosaurs using artificial CGI.

Loved it anyway.

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Life-changing.

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This is the best theory on the film so far. I agree 100%

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the ending made the movie watchable

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I loved this movie so hard! I've watched it twice, and both times I thought Manny was real. When Hank says, "they're going to see everything," I took it to mean that Hank saw his & Manny's world as theirs, as somehow magical, and other people seeing it would just think it was sick.

The ending...I HATED it. Because although I was glad that Manny speeding away, farting and smiling, I wanted Hank and Manny to be together. It upset me more than I thought it would, especially the second time. Probably because one of the interviews I read with the Daniels had them talking about how, as they wrote it, it became a romantic comedy. This was after I'd seen it the first time.

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Why do you use capital letters when starting a word with I is what I wanna know

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There's only 3 times when that happened and 6 times it didn't.

~Jesus wept.~

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Love all the theories about this movie!

Thank you, @LeopoldGoeth, @boova, @bartlesby_the_revenant and the rest of users.

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I saw this movie yesterday (jan.28th).I liked the movie very much.

What I think about the whole thing is simple.

I think corpse was real. That's what saved him from suicide.
In my opinion, Hank was imagining Manny's superpowers, though.

What I think about the ending? My explanation is simple.

Ending was what every viewer, deep down inside, wanted the ending to be. I think everybody wanted Manny to be REAL. I know I did.
So I think - the whole movie is Hank's imagination of corpse being alive.

And the ending of the movie represented our own imagination/desire for Manny to be a real multi tool super powered corpse man.


Sarah said "wtf" after Manny started to swim away.

We're all weird in one way or another. Sarah I think represented the normal everyday world reaction to our everyday's weird ideas, such as Manny being actually a real thing. Manny being real is a happy ending. We all want happy endings (no pun intended).



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