How bad was it honestly?


Ok, I'm a Christian, so I believe in Jesus (although he wasn't born on Christmas, but sometime in the spring or summer). Anyway, religious stuff aside, how bad is the movie? Are you just downvoting it because you are atheists or is it genuinely a bad movie? Please be honest.

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Wow, you went for the ad hominem attack way too soon for me to take you seriously. Apparently you ARE an angry atheist who just downvoted the movie because it's Christian. Thanks for answering my question. I'll go see it now, since it can't be that bad if you hate it.

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I'm not an atheist, I just hate Kirk Cameron and all that he stands for.

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what are you then? because why do you have hate in your heart to begin with?

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Wow, you went for the ad hominem attack way too soon for me to take you seriously.


When someone goes on the attack that quickly they don't have much going on "upstairs".

I'm a Christian, I gave this movie a 1. The vote grubbing turned me off completely. Kirk should not be the messenger. He's doing more harm than good. He's been rich since the mid 80s. He cannot relate............to anyone.

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You sound bitter.

What do you even mean by relate.. to anyone? Kirk spends his life spreading his beliefs.. Why are you judging him? Who are you to do such? At least Kirk is doing something he believes in.. and it's still not good enough. Good thing your pathetic opinion is irrelevant.

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I haven't seen the movie either. For those of you who have, & said it is really bad, how does it compare with the trailers for this particular movie, here: Is it any better or any worse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2gfuVo4wRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_1jOWssvA

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Aside from the christian themes, kirk's reputation, this ultimately is a REALLY REALLY bad movie.

Just watch the first 3 minutes and you'll see it right away how horrible it is. You'll just sit there wondering "WTF, is this for real? How can they make such a bad movie like this?"

I don't mean to exaggerate here, but honestly, I think I could've written and directed a better movie than this. Most people can.

Don't waste money on seeing this movie. I didn't pay for it. I went to see Interstellar but had about an hour till that started, so me and my friends went into a random movie that was about to start and boy, we could not stop laughing at how stupid it was. Walked out after 20 minutes.

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It's the WORSE THING EVER!!!, the film dragging on with Kurt talking in a car, the opening sequence when he's clearly drinking out of an empty cup, the talking-behind-drinking-vessels with the voices dubbed in which was a Simpsons rip-off ("Sunday Cruddy Sunday"), the "You love Christmas" line, drivel about Santa being an anagram of Satan and it apparently being "a coincidence", the brother-in-law sliding on the floor towards the presents while Kirk horribly smirks with poor lighting behind him, then a freeze frame with a voiceover telling us to think of how the presents are laid, resembling a re-construction of some holy city, the dancing scene just to drag on the time, the recital of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town", poorly acted flashbacks let alone the "present" in the film being acted just as bad while the wife looks bored and not wanting to be there. Then to top of it off Kirk stops the dancing with a cringey shout of "LET'S FEAST!!", followed by a voiceover about using the most expensive cutlery and crockery and largest pieces of meat or whatever, while the camera pans over the table and food, not forgetting another horrible grin and wink from Kirk to end.

The whole film just makes me angry and even seeing it in the bottom 5 and biggest Razzie Winner of 2015 don't even make me feel any better.

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Santa IS an anagram for Satan. its fine that you are not researched in the world, religion, or history, but try not to use words like drivel when its clear you are completely ignorant. on a seperate note, i want to fully understand Kirks stance on this, he says the anagram is a "coincidence?" for real?!

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It's really lousy. Not only is the script insane bullcrap, as many have covered here, the sound mixing, editing, acting, and directing are all shockingly amateurish.

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Yes, but, how does the trailers for the particular movie I just showed compare, to Kirk Cameron's movie?

Do you think it's better than Kirk's movie? Or worse...?



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The majority of this so-called "movie" consists of a guy giving a sermon to another guy in a car. Enough said.

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Sounds like a gay porno.

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It is a genuinely bad movie.
But the message is part of that.
The message is vile and repulsive, although not as much as God's Not Dead. Even most Christians agree, it has nothing to do with being atheist. It would be like if an atheist made a movie saying all Christians are evil.
Even aside from that, it is a ridiculously poor film.

However, it isn't the worst movie ever.
It actually has entertainment value, like watching a train wreck.

Why are you even asking this question? You can already see the rating and read all the reviews. 99% of the reviews are bad. You must think everyone is a lying atheist, which shows your bias. Or else you are trolling.
Why would you expect you would get a different response by asking here?

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I am guessing that this is being asked because has been everywhere saying that all those people who gave it a bad rating didn't really watch the movie and are just giving it a bad rating because it is a christian movie.

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"Anyway, religious stuff aside, how bad is the movie?"

If one were to "put the religious stuff aside" there would be no movie, as the entire thing is basically one long tedious sermon. I mean, literally! So if you enjoy cinematic Christian sermons you may enjoy it, but if not... well there is nothing else to it.

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i'm an atheist, and i haven't seen the movie, i've only rated it 1/10 because of how terribly kirk cameron took the criticism.

from what i've heard, it has no real plot, forced acting, and worst of all, kirk cameron.

i've actually heard there are christians out there who hate this movie.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2UVnY6tuCA
THIS IS THE BEST DAMN THING YOU'LL EVER SEE.

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he wasn't born on Christmas, but sometime in the spring or summer.


Where did you get that information from. I'm not a religious person myself, but I have read the reasoning on why it was believed by Christians from the very earliest times of their religion why their God was born around the winter solstice, there is a very logical series of deductions that are made to determine this beginning with the time frame that he would have been presented for the first time at the Temple in Jerusalem, and what time of year that would have been based on the tribal grouping that his uncle, John the Baptist's father, and what very narrow time of the year that uncle of his would have served at the temple based on the tribe and clan he belonged to. For a more complete explanation, Google it, it's quite an interesting process how the early Christians made this determination other than the tradition that pre-existed the reasoning.

The misconception that the traditional date of Christmas had to do with a borrowing from the Romans based on Mithras is mistaken as the cult of Mithras developed quite a bit after the time when records indicate that the Christians of the empire were already celebrating their God's birth around the solstice.

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Thank you for this post.

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The thing is, people just don't know. The birthdate of Christ is unknown.

There is some justification for the spring/summer idea, largely based on context clues. The book of Luke cites that the Roman Empire had called for a census, and that was never done in the winter due to bad weather and poor road conditions. Also, Luke cites that shepherds were watching over their flocks by night....again, not done in the winter, as it is too cold and stormy in that region. Shepherds would have their flocks under shelter. It would make sense in the spring, when the lambing is going on, or in summer, when the weather permitted.

While many say there are justifications for assuming Christ was born in winter, in reality they're post hoc rationalizations; even Christian leaders and scholars admit that.


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