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Now that we know that 'Bones' is a cheater..


it will be unintenionally funny to see him in this, talking about him being an 'artist' and what not.
But I am really looking forward to this, mainly because of the part that deals with the whole CTE problematic.

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Yeah, I just have to laugh at all the people who believe his story that it was tainted black market Cialis.

There isn't a reason in the world that a company, from any country, would put Clomid AND Letro in a product meant to be an erectile dysfunction medication.

If you're going to fake something, why waste any of your chemicals when you could just use B12 or something? I've never seen a company offer a combined product that contains Clomid and Letro together, and it wouldn't make any sense at all to do so. Both products are taken usually at different times for different reasons. So, I don't buy that it was a mislabeled product either (I could see him trying that excuse because places that sell black market post cycle treatment and AI's often sell ED meds also).

I also don't buy that a millionaire would buy black market Cialis. He could easily afford the real stuff even at full price from a US pharmacy, and if he was looking to save a buck, you can buy foreign RX meds online.

Why buy some black market product from a research chemical company or shady overseas lab?

He was doing post cycle treatment for steroid use, and he got caught.

If you believe otherwise, you're naive at best and stupid at worst.

He should have gotten the full two years at the very least, or more since he's been in constant trouble for the last few years.

Great fighter. One of the best we have ever seen, steroids or not. I personally would be fine if they never even tested these guys and I think the whole program is akin to the old witch hunts. But those are the rules, and he can't follow them no matter how many times he gets in trouble.

I can forgive and forget a few mistakes. He rose to the top at a young age and I can understand some of it. But the fact that he STILL hasn't learned any kind of lesson and thinks he can just do whatever he wants because he's famous makes me lose all respect for him.

A true GOAT is a great fighter and a good person. See my avatar for someone who fits that mold.

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"Apparently" he didn't buy anything. His friend gave it to him. Usada also believed his story but didn't care. He's never tested positive for "roids" and when Usada came to his house he had no idea he was going to test positive for anything. His recent podcast with Rogan clears everything up. As much as a POS Jones is and the way he talks about getting blacked out drunk 1 week before every fight, you can tell he liked using dick pills and it was not uncommon for black market drugs to be tainted.



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Well, you can believe what you want to believe I guess but it's absolutely a ridiculous story to anyone who knows what they are talking about

I'm a chemist, I played college sports around lots of guys juicing, have several bodybuilder friends, and I know a lot about these labs, the chemicals, detection times, etc etc.

His excuse is crap and if you actually believe that story he gave on the podcast you obviously don't have a clue about this stuff. And, that's fine. It's no knock on you, but to people with knowledge of this stuff his excuse is ridiculous.

The substances he tested positive for are HUGE red flags for steroid use. That's exactly why they test for them.

USADA couldn't prove he did steroids, because they were out of his system by then, but he tested positive for not one, but two chemicals used by men (for the most part) ONLY for steroid cycle therapy to regulate your hormones back to normal. If they thought he was totally innocent, why did he get the maximum penalty of a year suspension? Guys have gotten off with no punishment for tainted meat and supplements in the past, even just recently.

The story he gave on the podcast makes it even LESS believable now, because he's saying a pharmacist got this stuff and that it was a pill.

I thought maybe he would say it was a liquid product, because that's what the research chemical companies sell. They dissolve the medications in bulk powder form in liquid. His only believable excuse could have been that it was a liquid and the research chemical company must have mislabeled it or cross-contaminated bottles (although that excuse wouldn't work because it wouldn't give him enough of a dose to result in a positive test)

There's absolutely no way that anyone, any lab, any pharmacist, or any company made a PILL WITH letro and clomid in it.

Period.

His excuse is complete crap. How many guys have we heard give this stupid excuse?

He should have talked with someone to come up with a better excuse.

I'm sure Brock Lesnar just took a tainted dick pill too.

That excuse is right up there with "I did not inhale"

Jones is an amazing fighter. Like the vast majority of past and present fighters, he used steroids. He's still one of the best and could easily be THE best if he would straighten up.

I think the testing is stupid and they should just let the guys fight. I'm just trying to explain this to people who have no clue about this stuff. I can see how it would possibly be believable if you don't know what the substances are, how these products are made, where they come from, etc etc.

An Aromatase Inhibitor (Letro) and a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (Clomid) do NOT get mixed together and made into a dick pill and passed off as Cialis. Not purposely, not accidentally. It's absolutely ridiculous. These are female breast cancer drugs. They also happen to have value to men with hormone issues usually caused by steroid use.

The aromatase inhibitor prevents excess estrogen build-up which happens when you take high doses of steroids that aromatize into estrogen, or it is taken after to prevent excess estrogen when natural testosterone levels are low due to your body shutting down production from being on "external" sources of hormones.

The SERM binds to the estrogen receptor and prevents any excess estrogen from activating it, causing things such as "bitch tits" where men grow breasts. It also "jump-starts" your natural testosterone back after it has been suppressed during a steroid cycle.

These aren't medications that would be combined, nor would they somehow get passed off as a dick pill.

Another HUGE red flag to people who know what is going on is his extremely low testosterone level on one of his previous tests. This was very abnormal and didn't go unnoticed at all. His levels were a fraction of what they should have been, which is a big sign of steroid use. Again, he didn't test positive because he was off cycle, but his natural levels were totally shut down which is what happens when you take exogenous hormones. Then you take the substances in his "dick pill" to bring them back to normal.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Victor-Conte-Jon-Jones-Low-Testosterone-Levels-Before-UFC-182-Highly-Suspicious-80631


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Agreed. You more than adequately covered why tainted black-market dick pills is an absolutely ridiculous excuse. Jon Jones is a most likely a pathological liar. I would just simply say he is, but I can't prove it so I won't just say it definitively. I will say the guy is an absolute piece of *beep*

This somewhat boring documentary again shows that Tito has a head with it's own weather system and if you look closely you can see his head's moons circling while he's being interviewed. During the press conference for his fight against Chael P., a comment on youtube slayed some of us. "Tito looks like an autistic potato." 😄 I would say a more accurate description, if you want to go down that road is, "a Potato with Down Syndrome". I was close enough to someone with Down Syndrome as well was a pall-bearer at his funeral, in the middle of a snow storm while wearing a walking cast, that I'm allowed to joke about it based on our society's unwritten rules.

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Had to turn it off and won't be wasting my time watching the rest of it. Costner was one of the worst possible choices to narrate this garbage. I wanted to hold out for the GSP interviews since he's about the only high-level class act the sport has ever produced. I'll just google his name with the title and see if youtube has his portion.

Obviously this was made when the RRR d!ck, or in this case cl!t, riding was at an all-time high because "The Bodyguard" referred to her as #4 P4P in the world. Women and men should've never been placed in the same P4P list. For one thing, she has shown herself to be a front-runner bully. Also, any top 500 guy that weighs in as little as 125 pounds or possibly thousands upon thousands of Martial Artists, when including professional boxing, let alone Mixed Martial Artists could have even at her peak and definitely now beat the living *beep* out of her. Of course, it would be seen as women beating, but maybe they shouldn't have hyped her so much. Joe Rogan lost a huge amount of respect due to his obsession with Rousey after his creepy compliments for her after she knocked out that Brazilian Female Accountant with 3 years of experience. There are definitely some women that can "fight" just not Ronda Rousey. Judo toss, arm bar, tap out and she's the best ever and supposedly could beat trained men of equal size... 😩

I did like when Bones Nose acknowledged that he intentionally cheats and eye-pokes on purpose. Hilarious 😆

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I don't know if anyone else picked up on him accidently saying he used a liver cleanser, but then glossed over that during the Joe Rogan interview. Why the hell would he be on a liver cleanser? Unless.....

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Ya the dick pill excuse did fool me but then after some thinking I forgot about his low testosterone. He really looked at Joe and made me believe it, but I still think he's a POS. I did think BS at first but he did act like he really didn't know wtf was going on.... better actor than I thought.

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