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THERES NO SUCH THINGS AS GHOSTS!!!!!

posted 9 years ago by JoferJeff
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I feel the need to say this loudly. Some people just dont seem to get it. If there were such things, would some TV show gotten some type of proof by now. Take any night-vision camera show and look at all the "proof" theyve collected in the past seasons. You will get jack schitt. All these shows are are guys (who probably have day jobs) running around in the dark and claiming something just brushed up against them. They find nothing and make it seem like they accomplished something. Its like a bad episode of Scooby Doo.

And by the way, theres no such thing as Bigfoot, so Ill spoil "Finding Bigfoot" and let you know they dont find him.

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[–] shellc2005 9 years ago

There has been proof and some good stuff at that but it will always come down to those who believe and these who don't.

I was watching a show the other night here in the UK about the Enfield Poltergeist case and the believers did say there may have been bits that were faked and were willing to admit they could be wrong but the sceptics were adamant and refused to move from their opinions that everything was fake. Even when they were shown clips and couldn't debunk it, they refused to budge.

I personally believe there is something there and have had experiences so there would have to be a lot of HARD evidence to make me think otherwise but on the other hand I do realise there are those who don't think anything is real.

[–] JoferJeff 9 years ago

I think they overdo it and therefore hurt their cause. If they want to entertain, they are doing a good job. If they want to prove the existence of ghosts, they suck at it. These shows offer no proof other then eyewitness accounts. Apparently, they know enough about ghost that they can capture them but not enough to get a good picture. Plus I love how these shows pretend that they are in some kind of danger. LOL.

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[–] Jetfire1959 9 years ago

It's been my experience that those, like yourself, who proclaim their disbelief so prominently are actually terrified it's real. The louder they argue, the more frightned they are.

Superior intelligence doesn't necessarily equate to superior intention.

[–] JoferJeff 9 years ago

Not even a little. Why fear the dead, when the living are war more dangerous.

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[–] Jetfire1959 9 years ago

Okay, if you're not frightened by the possibility of ghosts, etc. being real, why do you make it a point to log on here and proclaim it so strongly? Why not just go your own way and let us moronic believers carry on? We're not causing you any harm by believing. I am 56 now. I've been studying the paranormal since I was in 6th grade. I did research reports in high school on weird subjects to mess with my teacher's heads. In the process of making these reports, I did a LOT of research. Ghosts are quite real.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio

Superior intelligence doesn't necessarily equate to superior intention.

[–] JoferJeff 9 years ago

My point? Simple, if you say ghosts exist, prove it.

All these ghost hunting or chasing shows are actually hurting your cause that they exist. They use the same camera tricks, night vision and thermal images to pretend there are spirits lurking in the shadows of the old house, building they are wandering around in at night. Now, I think youre silly for believing in ghosts, and youre probably one step away from believing in the tooth fairy at the same time.

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[–] Jetfire1959 9 years ago

I agree about these shows being useless and harmful, 100%. I don't watch them. You apparently do. And this issue is not "my cause" as you put it. I did not come here to proclaim anything. I came to see if anyone was discussing the upcoming "live exorcism" that's being promoted. The blasted promos for it are on virtually every cable channel I watch. When I came here to see if it was being discussed, I saw your post and responded to your declaration. I find it amusing that you're frustrated enough to insult me. You danced all around answering my question. You think we're silly. Okay, fine. I ask again: If you're so confident that the paranormal is bunk, why not just go your own way and let us morons carry on? Why come here and argue with us? How are we harming YOU by believing? BTW, can you prove ghosts don't exist?

Oh, and thank you for proving my original point by engaging me so strongly. Deep down you're afraid it's all true. You're trying desperately to convince yourself it's not.

Superior intelligence doesn't necessarily equate to superior intention.

[–] JoferJeff 9 years ago

Hold on, I have to stop laughing.

I am an atheist so it would follow that I do not believe in any spiritual afterlife whatsoever. I am a skeptic and I ask for proof. If ghosts exist, there should be some kind of verifiable proof of their existence. Photos, videos, etc. All we get are found-footage quality videos and quasi-scientific scenarios. Half of this stuff is scientific, and half of it is religious/psychic new age. Neither side can make the case that ghosts exist. You are not harming me by believing, and if you want to believe, go right ahead. I just ask you look at the evidence and see reality.

And dont get me started on the exorcism BS.

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[–] Jetfire1959 9 years ago

And again, you dance all around answering my question. Are you a politician? Read this carefully. IF IT'S ALL BS AND NOT WORTH YOUR TIME WHY DO YOU COME HERE TO ARGUE ABOUT IT?
The fact that you do speaks volumes.

The honest truth is I envy you in a way. I wish I didn't know about it. I'd love to be all safe and snug in my own little bubble of blissful ignorance like you obviously are. No insult intended.

Superior intelligence doesn't necessarily equate to superior intention.

[–] JoferJeff 8 years ago

Pardon my absence. I am spread too thin online.

Why do I argue with people about believing in ghosts?? The answer is simple. I think people are being taken advantage of and used for the sake of ratings exploitation. Take our current tv show thread, Ghost Asylum. These guys actually imply that they are in some sort of DANGER when they do an episode. As for as I know, no person has ever been even injured during one of these episodes. That includes any ghost hunting TV show. Viewers are being mislead, willfully in my opinion, about the actual evidence of paranormal activity. (Don't get me started on those movies.)

Listen, I think it natural to hope that death isn't the end. That there's something more afterwards. That we are more than, a bag of bones and mostly water. I just hope that people dont mistake hope with proof.

Would you like the meaning of life? The answer is simple as well. There isn't one.

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[–] Jetfire1959 8 years ago

I honestly think you may be a politician. You are very talented at giving non-answers to my questions. Let me see if I've got this right. You've taken it upon yourself to be an advocate for disbelief in the paranormal. You do this because people are being taken advantage of. Okay, fair enough. But you still haven't convinced me that your true motivation isn't fear. My belief was born decades before any of these shows or that useless "Paranormal Activity" film existed.

I've known that there is no meaning to life since I was a teenager, Your sarcasm on that is unnecessary for this debate.

We are the Borg.Irrelevance is irrelevant.

[–] fiendingforfood 8 years ago

jetfire1959 - my "experience" with the paranormal started when I was ten years old and my fifth grade teacher asked me to stay after class. I was a very polite, studious kid, so I knew I wasn't in trouble - once the room was empty except for me and Mrs. ---------, she said, "(My name) it's very important that you never play with Ouiji boards."
"Yes, Mrs. ----------, I know because (Catholic school) we're told not to play with things like that."
"Yes, but more than that, it's VERY IMPORTANT that YOU NEVER PLAY WITH OUIJI BOARDS."

Okay. So. That was my intro to the world of paranormal shi*t.
I feel you on wishing sometimes it wasn't part of life, but when you got it, you got it.
It's creeped out people I've worked with, but it's normal for me.

As for JoferJeff, whateverdoodle.
Believe, don't believe, think life is irrelevant, laugh in God's face - who cares?
But it does beg the question as to why you'd spend so much time stridently making your voice heard on the topic.
Are you, by chance, fifteen years old?