Given that The League beat Darkseid in JL: War, and Orm single-handedly beat them in this one, that just put Orm with the trident at least one tier above Darkseid. Trident OP, pls nerf.
On an unrelated note, how the hell did Aquaman get drunk and hangover?
For me, it was really disappointing to watch Captain Marvel job so bad to the trident... Like rip his enchanted lightning away from him... Why would an undersea trident have command of lightning like that, let alone enchanted lightning?
So, Trident > The Wizard Shazam?
;_;
Not sure in this version of the DC universe how the trident gets it's power, however I remember in the Justice League episode the Terror Within Dr. Fate and Aquaman explains that thousands of years ago Atlantis was ruled by Sorcerer kings when Atlantis and the rest of the earth was attacked by extra dimensional beings called the old ones and their leader a Thanagarian deity named Ichthultu. Atlantis was ruled by Posiden and he summoned nearly all of the ambient mystical energy on earth and forged it into a single weapon the Trident this is also what caused Atlantis to sink. So it is not outside the realm of possibility that it would be more powerful than Shazam the wizard.
shareIcthulhtu? Is that the Apple version of Cthulhu?
shareThe Trident is a magical weapon that grants its wielder great power and the divine right to rule the sea. The original Trident of Neptune was forged by the cyclops out of admantine and Neptune's own essence. It can manipulate and conjure water, as well as disperse energy in the form of bolts and force fields. The Trident of Neptune may be used by his chosen champions, and was most recently wielded by Aquaman. The Trident beholds a vast number of magical powers such as the power to command the sea (making tidal waves or whirlpools or even making columns of water to stand on), control the weather (summoning rain or storms or creating rainbows), unleash blasts of lightning, and even turn living creatures into something else.
We know Superman is weak against magic, so the trident's power is able to hurt him. I guess the rest of them are weak against magic as well. Wonder Woman was able to hold onto the trident for a long time though, but the rest got 1 shot.
Well Shazam was basically magic Superman. Him getting one shot was pretty ridiculous.
Also Orm should never be able to hit Superman or Flash. But I get that this is a Aquaman centric movie and they had to give him the spotlight (even though he still had his ass kicked and freaking Batman saved the day again).
Good information about the trident. If we go back 20 years ago, Thor was able to direct the Shazam lighting away from BB/CM but not completely disenchant him...
Even looking back on all the CM appearances in the DC animated movies, he doesn't really get treated/represented very well...
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I acknowledge your point but Aquaman did little more than beat up henchmen get his but whooped while his future wife cut people in half then at the end magically figured out how to harness the tridents powers (let superman beat the underwater sea creature? I think that should have been a aquaman time to shine) then goes from being a drunk to a leadership roll in best two days. Aquaman's state of mind, "F it i have the trident bow down"
shareNo offense but the trident powers were represented extremely well in the movie. I have issues with the movie itself (like how an entire group of people let some completely random guy become king...they've never even heard of him). The trident is magically more powerful than Shazam the wizard. It is not at all a stretch that it would easily cancel out the Shazam's powers. It can injure Superman because Superman is vulnerable to magic, the trident being one of the most powerful magical artifacts would do some hefty damage to him. Very well represented in my opinion and followed DC's lore to a T(rivaled I believe only by Dr. Fate's helmet).
shareWRONG superman is not vulnerable to magic it is not his weakness and has never been his weakness Magic can effect him because he has no special resistance to it IE SPECIAL but he still can resist to a high degree
on top of that Captain marvel is powered by six gods SIX as in six *beep* complete divine beings there is absolutely no *beep* reason he would get one shotted by the trident
Okay, Superman does not have a special weakness to magic. He is still vulnerable to it the same way that you or I are vulnerable to a bullet fired by a gun.
"There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world." - Gandalf
superman is not weak to magic he simply has no special resistance key word SPECIAL he still has a high level of invulnerability even to magic
shareI'd also like to know the answer to exciterRC's question. If Orm was there with the trident when darkseid attacked, then technically he should beat him with ease? Seems a bit too hard to believe.
I can understand the need to make aquaman and Atlantis look important in this movie, though the justice league wasn't even really needed. Would have been best to just put them in the end asking Aquaman to join them.
In flashpoint paradox superman in his weakened state took off aquaman's arm with his heat vision even as he held the trident, now a full strength heat vision has no effect. Maybe we're just looking into it too much.
Flashpoint Paradox isn't the same universe as this movie. That takes place before The New 52, and this takes place after. Ever since Justice League War, they are trying to keep the art style the same and the continuity as well.
As for power levels, Darkseid's Omega Beams are supposed to kill any target they hit and turn them to ash. In the Superman Animated Series, one touch would kill you.
They had to power down his Omega Beams in Superman/Batman: Apocalypse and Justice league War because he can't kill Superman, just injure him.
Now if Darkseid were to face an Atlantean royal with the trident, I would say Darkseid would still win. The Justice League only blinded him, but never actually defeated him. They simply pushed him back to Apokolips. Darkseid is a New God so his power level can rival Superman, but their fights have always ended with Darkseid being banished. Darkseid was killed in the Superman animated series as well, but came back.
As for power levels, Darkseid's Omega Beams are supposed to kill any target they hit and turn them to ash. In the Superman Animated Series, one touch would kill you.
They had to power down his Omega Beams in Superman/Batman: Apocalypse and Justice league War because he can't kill Superman, just injure him.
I can understand the need to make aquaman and Atlantis look important in this movie, though the justice league wasn't even really needed. Would have been best to just put them in the end asking Aquaman to join them.
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