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It's Bush's fault....


Another liberal vanity project by washed-up actor Redford. Plot: Rather and Mapes were telling the truth but vast Right wing conspirators headed by Bush and Cheney undermined them, got them fired and thrown out of main street media. LOL, even hardcore progressives know these two were making stuff up. Dan Rather has admitted that even if the documents are false, that the underlying story is true....some journalist. Bill Burkett's, the source of the memos, admitted that he lied to CBS about the whole event. And left wing CBS is going to fire them because they told the "truth" about the devil George Bush? This is a comedy, right? More likely an epic stinker....

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You are an agent of that corrupt administration, now kindly be quiet.

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ooooh apt reply, how many hours did that take to create?

another 14 year old keyboard warrior

(and if you're older than 14, you just proved to IMDB you're a turd!)

congrats!

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I know you are but what am I?

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Seems like a great cast for a liberal vanity project! So are you saying you believe that W actually served in the Texas Air National Guard? Has the former President ever released all records as proof of this? Just like you, I have no proof that Dan Rather & Mary Mapes made this up. Bloggers screaming about fonts and superscripts are no proof of a forgery.

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AND WHERE'S HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE?!?!

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Bush served in the TANG. That fact is simply beyond dispute. The fact that you would even question that discredits you right from the start.

BTW, we're waiting for the release of John Kerry's military records. STILL. In that the media shows complete disinterest.

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Bush served in the TANG. That fact is simply beyond dispute. The fact that you would even question that discredits you right from the start.

It's not beyong dispute at all. That fact that you would even assert that discredits you right from the start.

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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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It's not beyong dispute at all.


It is verified and common knowledge that Bush served in the Texas Air National Guard and this was not a fact disputed by CBS. If you didn't, at least, glean that from this movie then english must be a tertiary language for you.

The story they were trying to posit (yet completely failed), was that Bush was granted the position based on political favor AND that Bush was not diligent in his service in the TANG.

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yes he did, and so did I...go disprove that super turd...

retired and enjoying you paying for my retirement, thank you!!!

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Bush signed the form (SF-180) enabling the release to the general public the entirety of his military records. John Kerry has not.

Bush's record shows that he served in the Texas Air National Guard and absolutely nobody, except you apparently, disputes that.

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I wonder why John Kerry would refuse to release his medical records.

There is something to hide I suppose. But who cares anyway. I can't imagine him ever being President.

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His last movie was Captain America The Winter Soldier actually. Hail Hydra!

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Hail Hydra!


And how appropriate a last line for Redford.




Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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Wrong again. His last role was in "A Walk In The Woods" with Nick Nolte. Hardly a 'washed up actor', he's more talented and caring than most of the younger actors/directors out there today.

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That was before A Walk in the Woods came out...I saw it the night it came out. Both of those movies actually.

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What this film is about is very important... except for those who wish to justify Dubya's administration in all things they did.

CBS and Rather were guilty of taking the bait, and paid the price. But how did those who'd provided CBS the fake documents know what was in the real ones?? -- which they clearly did...

And by bitch-slapping CBS and Rather, and the scandal effectively neutralizing the impact of Dubya's Nat'l Guard records if they were to surface, well --- it's absolutely Rove-ian. And brilliant.

CBS and Dan Rather made a huge blunder, but they're not the nation's biggest enemies, and what actually happened behind the scenes is really relevant in this case.


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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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Didn't you just print this same ridiculously one-sided post on another thread?

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Nice to know you're reading them, ridiculously one-sided though you are.

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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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Nice to know you're reading them, ridiculously one-sided though you are.
Project much?

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The problem isn't with one-sidedness. The problem is that it's hair-on-fire cospiracy theory nonsense.

Remember, more than half of Democrats are 911 truthers. DailyKos had to ban 911 truther posts because progressives are so invested in conspiracy theories. It's mainstream for them.

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Hair on fire?? Since when did Rove have any hair?

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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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The Independent Panel Review of the Rather-Mapes debacle made clear that, in fact, Rather and Mapes based their report on fraudulent evidence, and failed to even come close to employing proper journalistic standards vetting that evidence. Of this there isn't the slightest doubt.

No credible evidence has ever been presented that Bush failed to serve honorably in the TANG. He flew jets. Anyone questioning his service should tell us what THEY did during the Viet Nam War. We know what Bill Clinton did. He avoided service.

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I'm sitting on the fence on this one.


Looks like a communist fence that you are sitting on, by the looks of that VC flag.

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It's the official flag of the U.S. State of Arizona, you nitwit.

 pawned! Nice! You know true patriots when they use words like "commie" but don't know the country they are supposedly loving, right?

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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Yes.

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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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It's hard to verify a document when you don't have the original.

On the other hand, there are a number of things that do point to the documents being forgeries, specifically ones printed up in Microsoft Word.

I vividly remember when all this was going down back in 2004. I actually did the experiment of opening up Word and typing the memo into it, printing it out, and comparing it to the Killian memo. Like anyone else who did this, I got the same 99.999% perfect match everyone else did. Add to that the inconsistencies in terminology and formatting, the fact that his family says Killian didn't use a typewriter, and wasn't in the habit of keeping personal files, and you have a pretty good case that they are forgeries. However, because there are no originals, there is no way to be absolutely certain.

It is that uncertainty, along with other obfuscations, that makes up the bulk of Mapes' and others assertion that the documents "have never been proven false".

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"It is that uncertainty, along with other obfuscations, that makes up the bulk of Mapes' and others assertion that the documents "have never been proven false". "

And therein lies the journalistic malpractice. It was her job to prove the authenticity of the docs before running with the story, not for others to prove the docs were false. She wanted an outcome and didn't verify the docs authenticity (or even really try) because of her bias in "investigating" this story.

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It would be as correct to say that it is equally likely that each letter was hand-drawn with a quill in the original.

Your pretense that everything but the document we can see is in a black box is an error of logic. Your comment does not portray you as clever.

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They are not journalists. They are liberal activists campaigning for the Democrat Party.

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In the movie "All Is Lost" Robert Redford says almost nothing. It's his most truthful movie in decades.

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Lol, well said!

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Don't forget; It's Bush's fault AND you're a racist!! (Well, we all are I guess).

This movie has all the research and accuracy of another Dennis Quaid movie, The Day After Tomorrow.

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"Dan Rather has admitted that even if the documents are false, that the underlying story is true....some journalist. "

That's a common rallying cry for the Left: Facts don't matter as long as the overall narrative is true.

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