Music ruined it


I was kind of digging this movie (and the old school hip hop) until the whole 'this is our punk band' part.
That sounded more like a mountain dew commercial than any 3 high school kids in a punk band.
first it was just stylistically not punk or anything close to it.
2nd it was just far too slick and 'produced' to be anything some kids do. It reminds me of the crappy fake bands in movies from the 80's.


And um, what inner city public school can you leave band instruments unattended without them being stolen?
(or has an actual science lab?)

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That part actually reminded me of Me and Earl and the Dying Girl. The three outcasts (2 guys and a girl) doing something quirky as an extra-curricular activity. In that movie, it was making silly parodies of classic films.

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I guess it was also kind of out of context. Why would 3 kids who are in to 90's hip-hop play 'rock and roll'. It almost seems like it was another 'that is what white people do so it's nerdy' thing.

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I'm black, grew up in the 90's, love 90's hip hop and I played in a punk band. There is nothing incongruent there. Nothing. You're suggesting that black kids can't dig punk or something. *beep*

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sorry, that is not my intent.
I actually used to do sound for some punk bands that had black dudes in them. Bass player of my old band was black and Puerto Rican. I'm creole myself. Fully aware that punk is not just white guys. Especially in places like NY and SF there was a lot of latin, black, asian etc people involved.
My point was that it wasnt really anything close to a punk band. More like Pharrell's idea of what a punk band might be?
And it just seemed like an odd embellishment, since the whole identity of these kids was that they were into hip hop from 20 years ago, when everyone else was into current mainstream stuff.
It's like if you made a movie about Jewish kids who are really into klezmer music. Then they decide to have a country band?
But hey I've never done molly (Lily?)

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It's pretty much exactly what pharrel and NERD did (he also wrote and produced those "punk" songs in the movie)

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I agree, the punk was out of place. It would make more sense if they were beat makers.

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"That part actually reminded me of Me and Earl and the Dying Girl."
I agree. These kids are WAYYYYY too polished at their art form for it to be any a bit realistic, even though there's good energy to it. I haven't seen "We Are The Best" yet. Does it follow this trend?

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I'm in my 40's, mixed race and used to be a sound engineer for several hip hop bands.
And you are some drive by troll, and judging by your avatar, some kind of bigot as well.

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You dont have to be gay in order to not hate gay people.
Ironic how many anti-gay preachers and politicians turned out to be gay themselves.
'you hate in others what you hate in yourself'

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You seem to be the one fascinated with gay sex my friend. Don't be one of those sad people that waits their whole life to come out of the closet because they are afraid. It does not matter what other people think about you, only whether you are honest with yourself. If you lie to yourself, you do not have integrity.

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Yeah.... his avatar saying "no" to the Confederate Flag means he's the bigot. That's the dumbest f$%king thing I have ever heard.

Are you not entertained?!

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he's changed his avatar from the previous anti-gay one.

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"drive by troll" lol

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I wasn't feeling their band at all either Lol but I guess it goes with the awkwardness nerd theme for the main cast. My taste has nothing to do with the genre of music, it just didn't sound good to me. *Kanye Shrug*

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There really wasn't much to ruin but yeah the music was indeed worse than the "acting", predictable plot and coming of age and gangsta movie clichés.

Oh you just meant their music? Not the crap that passes as a soundtrack? Ok.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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first it was just stylistically not punk or anything close to it.
2nd it was just far too slick and 'produced' to be anything some kids do. It reminds me of the crappy fake bands in movies from the 80's.


These two things struck me, too. Maybe they altered the production values of the music because the target audience wouldn't appreciate poorly produced music? I know hip hop fans value their production values and the movie seems to be to be targeted at hip hop loving audiences. Maybe I'm reaching with that one.

Certain brands of punk are well produced though, like pop punk. Well, certain bands within pop punk. Even some post-punk is well produced. They seemed to be aiming for something close to the core of the genre but, you're right, what they played sounded nothing like that. I wasn't really expecting a punk band inclusion within the film. I get that it was attempting to break down stereotypes but it still seemed out of place.

The early part of the film had a great soundtrack though.

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ever heard of Bad Brains? they are regarded as one the pioneer bands of hardcore punk.. they played reggae inbetween hardcore songs, as well as, soul, funk and heavy metal! what about body count?

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Bad Brains are of course African American. They basically invented hardcore punk which many other mostly white bands went on to popularize. Bad Brains are one of my all time favorite bands and I feel fortunate to have seen them in the mid-80's when they were an unstoppable force of nature.
I'd also point out that Black Flag had a black drummer for a few years, Suicidal Tendencies and Dead Kennedy's as well had black members, Special Forces was an Oakland punk band from the early 80's fronted by a black skinhead (yes not all skinheads are nazis) and of course X-Ray Spex and pretty much all of the first wave of Ska/Two-Tone bands had black members. If you go back and look at photos from the early punk/new-wave scene in NY, SF, LA or UK it is easy to see black members of the scene.
That wasn't my point. Rather that this is about nerdy 90's hip hop obsessed kids in Compton who for no apparent reason have a punk band, not a 90's style hip hop band? And it kind of seemed to me that it was represented as a nerdy white thing, and the music was very not punk, and just lame.

This is part of my overall perception that we are told that hip hop is black, and rock is white. even though since the beginning both of those musical genres have been multiracial.
I certainly wasn't trying to imply that black people don't belong in punk!

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Sorry boutcha.

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I didn't mind the punk rock band, but since they love'd 90's hip hop so much, I'd assumed they'd incorporate a little of that into their music.

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I was kind of digging this movie (and the old school hip hop) until the whole 'this is our punk band' part.
That sounded more like a mountain dew commercial than any 3 high school kids in a punk band.
first it was just stylistically not punk or anything close to it.
2nd it was just far too slick and 'produced' to be anything some kids do. It reminds me of the crappy fake bands in movies from the 80's.


And um, what inner city public school can you leave band instruments unattended without them being stolen?
(or has an actual science lab?)

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