Predictable


This movie was obvious in a kindergarten style, the one used at low-budget documentaries. Unfortunately, Im Labyrinth des Schweigens does not pour any new light on an inexhaustible theme and reinforces the notion that talking about Jews may suffice for a nomination.

reply

[deleted]

You need to replace this movie in the time is was made.(XXI St century)
Back to the end of the fifties, at the beginning of the inquest, they found a list with 15 or 16 names of victims and the names of their executioner's.
At some time, when they have testimonies of crimes committed in the camp, they are crowded with 8000 or so suspects.
In the end, only 18 or 19 of them are sentenced, out of those 8000. Not even twenty of them. Can you think something like Auschwitz manned by 20 people ?
Back then the law asked for material evidences... And something else.
Germany, and the world needed politic unity to resist the spirit of repressive distorted "whitch hunt " that was the final solution and nazism, to protect Germany from behaving against nazis in the same kind of inhumane way they behaved against Jewish, communists, zganis, and everone they decided.
When that movie was made, there was a trial coming. In a time where Germany was one again, and Europe looked solid... But it might be just a facade, otherwise, why would there still be a extreme right politic movement in Germany (and many other places in European countries) ?

Manelle
"to tax and to please, no more to love and to be wise, is not given to men"

reply

bluesdoctor,you seem to ignore the changes in German society and culture since the 1980s,especially of course 1989 when the Berlin wall came down.

Berlin Alexanderplatz was based on a book from the 1930s so of course it did not say much about the fate of the jews in Germany.
Fassbender's films are fascinating but again a product of their time,the message of the films is that individual Germans and the West German nation agreed to not mention its past and rebuild? is that a fair comment?

Since the 1960s when the children of people who were active in the nazi era grew up they started to ask their parents what they had done in that period.
Events like the trials shown in this film (and the events in the film THE READER)made people think about the recent past.

The far left student movement questioned the whole basis of the new Germany,but the majority of West Germans felt they wanted little social/political upheaval certainly most people feared the communist East who claimed to be more German than the pro American West Germany.

reply

I would add at least a third party who wanted things buried- at last in the movie: those who speak through the american major.
At some time...
Last month I watched the battle of Algier, and I wondered about other things that are still kept buried, but in France. Compared to Germany, few people went exposed for cooperating with the Nazis.About camps, before they got handled by the ss, some used to be handled by the french military police.
History is only a hobby, but I strongly doubt that corp ever was prosecuted.
At this point, somehow,I reflected,now, when the criminals are let loose, isn't it a wonderfully cheap way to punish the country that produced them ?
I must have thought about the schoolchildren bullied by the teacher, the girl and her blakened eye, or about the young prosecutor and his girlfriend... and perhaps about the people in Algier, tortured. Or the people in Indochina, tortured too.
Not all of this comes from fantasy,for people in charge told me things about the two last items, and I know these choices were made in other times.
I suppose nothing good can get out of such bitter thoughs.

Ps: as a matter of fact, when I studied the history of the French government, at last in my university, the occupation time was just... well, we never dealed with it. Not democratic, not worth reading. Wonder why we had to bother with the dark ages, then.

Manelle
"to tax and to please, no more to love and to be wise, is not given to men"

reply