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Vegeta SSJ God SSJ is Stronger than Goku SSJ God SSJ!


Goku was struggling with God Gold Freezer. Instead, Vegeta defeated Freezer in just seconds.

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When Vegeta and Goku are in the same level, Vegeta always is Stronger than Goku.

When Goku SSJ2 fight Vegeta SSJ2, Vegeta SSJ2 was Stronger than Goku SSJ2.

Now, Goku SSJ God SSJ was same level with God Gold Freezer. Instead Vegeta SSJ God SSJ Defeated God Gold Freezer in 10 or 15 seconds.

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That doesn't make sense, if they are on the same level that means they are equal.

No actually, Vegeta needed to use Babidi so he could get stronger, because after seeing Gokus power he realized he wasn't stronger than Goku. Even when they fought they were staying even and could even be said Goku was holding back and was distracted because he could sense Buu.

Also of course Vegeta beat Golden Freiza, Goku and Vegeta had figured out Golden Freizas weakness which that form uses up tonnes of stamina and so the longer the fight the weaker Freiza gets. Goku weakened Freiza a lot for Vegeta.

The only way you can say Vegeta is stronger is if A. Toriyama comes out and says so or B. The circumstances of the fight are the same, which the Vegeta vs Golden Freiza one wasn't because Freiza was in a weakened state after fighting SSGSS Goku.

So in conclusion there is no evidence at this moment to show that SSGSS Vegeta is stronger than SSGSS Goku.

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Well he beat Frieza because Frieza's power was drained. Goku had problems when the fight started but they figured out his body wasn't use to the power. Goku got the upper hand when that happen. Goku was going to let him go or let Vegeta finish him before the servant shot him.





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Goku was likely stronger as Vegeta kinda *beep* himself when he saw what Frieza had become.

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I doubt it.

Vegeta SSJ2 was Stronger than Goku SSJ2.

Goku SSJ God SSJ struggle with Gold Freezer. Vegeta SSJ God SSJ defeated Gold Freezer in like 13 seconds.

When Vegeta and Goku are In the Same Level, Vegeta is Always Stronger than Goku.

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Vegeta wasn't stronger as a SSJ2. He had to let Babadi control him and boost his power so he could even be equal to him.

And in this movie Goku fought Frieza when he was at full strenght. By the time Vegeta got around to fighting him he'd already lost most of his power to the point he punched Goku in the face and it didn't hurt him.

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Don't forget that Goku was fighting while Frieza was at full power. By the time Vegeta took over the fight, Frieza was tired, wounded, and weakened enough to realize Goku was going to defeat him, which was when he cheated. Not only that, Frieza was losing his hold on his Golden form at that point because, as Goku said, he didn't give himself time to adapt to his new form, which not only drained Frieza's energy (like Goku when he first became a SSJ3), but also made it difficult for him to stay in his Golden form for long. So by the time Vegeta stepped in, the "real" threat Frieza presented to them was over since he was so drained.

Goku and Vegeta are pretty much equal in strength. It's Goku's SSJ3 that makes him superior to Vegeta. He achieved this by training in Other World, which gives him the ability to train in much better to conditions to raise his strength much faster than on Earth (with the benefit of being dead, hence how he was able to achieve SSJ3). This is one of the biggest reasons he was able to stay ahead of Vegeta. But Vegeta was always able to keep up (aside from SSJ3) because he pretty much tortured his body with his training methods. But if Vegeta got to train in Other World, or if he ever swallowed his pride and trained with others, then he would most likely be able to surpass Goku if he kept training just as intently as he did on Earth. It seems that training at 300x normal gravity to the point where he nearly killed himself is enough to match the training benefits Other World provides. Don't forget how in the Android Saga that when Goku trained on Earth at the same time as Vegeta, Vegeta was able to surpass him when he became a SSJ too. So during those 7 years Goku was dead, if he had survived, he never would have unlocked SSJ3, and he wouldn't have gotten the benefits training in Other World would have provided, so Vegeta probably would have been stronger than him during the Buu Saga. But since that wasn't the case, Goku was able to pull a head in a way that Vegeta has, thus far, never been able to close the gap. But since in Dragon Ball Super, it seems that Akira Toriyama is taking the series in a different direction from the SSJ2, SSJ3, SSj+ and instead focusing on SSJG, Vegeta now has a chance to catch up.

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You must not have been paying attention to the dialogue between Whis and Goku/Vegeta. Whis clearly pointed out that Goku has always been stronger than Vegeta. Vegata has always been "a step behind".

The basis for certain battles have been purely situational.

I don't shut up, I grow up, and when I look at you, I throw up, Aghhh!

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The point of that speech was to show vegeta why he's a step behind when he shouldn't be because whis knows vegeta is stronger by holds himself back

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