How did Gabriel... - Malignant (2021) Discussion

[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 3 years ago

How did Gabriel... ...learn to fight like a superhero who studied matrix style martial arts?

^^^

the film makes absolutely no attempt in any way to try to explain it

i 've watched the film twice and read dozens of reviews, from what i've gathered, it seems Madison/Gabriel gets their Superhuman strength from electricity

I do not remotely see how this explains though how Madison/Gabriel are able to fight like life lone martial artists, and do maneuvers that literally defy the laws of physics

bottom line there are at least 5 giant plot holes in this that require you to just say "who cares, and go with it"

this is probably the very best example of a film that requires you to just suspend all rational beliefs to enjoy it...

I Love the film....but I love it because I completely accept it for what it is... and the film is simply James Wan having an incredible idea for A twist ending and then he had to painfully and dishonestly build an entire film around it.

There was no other way for this film to work, it couldn't logically make sense, this film only exists for the twist ending and the experience of the shocking twist ending, so I'm OK shutting my brain off and accepting the plot holes because the twist ending was amazing and in my opinion completely justified the dishonesty from Wan

but I also completely understand why this movie would infuriate some and why anyone would really dislike it

it's an extremely odd movie and probably the most dishonest movie ever made

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[–] McQualude (4231) 3 years ago

It all happened in the Matrix, none of it was real.

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[–] TylerAArse (2652) 3 years ago

I still don't get how he was able to talk on the phone while in the same room with Anna.

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[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

Gabriel's consciousness is separate.

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[–] mr159 (136) 3 years ago

How did the consciousness know and dial Kekoa's phone number from an untraceable line?

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[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

I'll let you know the answer to that when I first figure out how Gabriel has the ability to manipulate electricity, or create an artificial voice (Gabriel has no vocal cords after all) that can communicate over an FM radio.

But actually before that, I might to figure out how Xavier can telepathically talk to ppl. Or how Danny was able to communicate with Hallorann.

And don't you say "magical" or "mutant" powers! Obviously, there's going to be an explicit, scientific explanation for all of these things. And when I figure it out, you'll find out right here.

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[–] mr159 (136) 3 years ago

Bro Xavier's telepathic powers are more or less consistent and always a part of his character. They don't simply disappear for a few stories and then resurface as a deus-ex-machina.

Xavier's telepathy is the wrong analogy. A better analogy is Electro deciding inexplicably not to use his electric powers and instead fighting Spiderman with his fists.

Gabriel's electro-powers are only ever used in the movie to deliver exposition to the viewers, like with the phone or the radio. He'd rather have a fist fight with Kekoa and almost get shot at the police station, when he can just electrocute everyone to death.

The writers give Gabriel such a big superpower, and then don't even use it for the entire the movie. It's like Superman not flying for an entire movie.

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[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

Bro Xavier's telepathic powers are more or less consistent and always a part of his character.

When Xavier first appeared in Xmen comics, issue 1, back a billion years ago when Stan Lee was but a wee lad, did you question the inconsistency of the power?

This is a standalone movie based on a new IP. It follows that the characters may have qualities that we don't fully understand. Just like how we didn't know Samara had pyrokinesis in The Ring until 1 hour into the film.

And actually, Malignant establishes his electrokinesis and the ability to create a voice before the credits even roll.

If a guy without vocal cords can establish the ability to control electricity and talk through a radio 5 minutes into the film, then it's not really that absurd to think that he can call a dude's phone 100 minutes into the film

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[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

The writers give Gabriel such a big superpower, and then don't even use it for the entire the movie. It's like Superman not flying for an entire movie.

I didn't notice you were making this new point earlier.

This argument is totally disingenuous and you know it. This is a variation of "why doesn't the demon just straight up kill everyone at the beginning movie" that you could say about 98% of horror films.
e.g.
-Why is the T-1000 just bludgeoning Arnie with hammer arms instead of just cutting him half and incapacitating him instantly?
-If the ghosts in the Shining can affect physical reality, why don't they just kill the Wendy/Danny straightup?

I can make an argument for why it's reasonable in some movies, but the fact that you moved to this after I responded to your

How did the consciousness know and dial Kekoa's phone number from an untraceable line?

You're clearly just looking to argue instead of discussing the details about this movie.

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[–] mr159 (136) 3 years ago

Honestly, I was only seeking answers within the framework of the movie. You used whataboutism by bringing in X-men and Shining. The argument becomes unending then because either of us can cite any number of movies that support our respective arguments.

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[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

The same way he learned electrokinesis, and used that to generate a voice that can communicate through radio and phone waves.

Magic. Lol

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[–] Pugnax (55) 3 years ago

Before he was stuffed back in her head and while he still had arms, he used to read martial arts comics.

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[–] ODB82 (2055) 3 years ago

I asked myself what is happening but didn’t ask myself how or why. I just knew I was enjoying the ridiculous gift that had been bestowed upon me.

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