Everything feels like a lie
The awards nominations seemed to be in place just to market and sell the film. It's as if they knew the movie was going to tank silently and used the awards shows to resell the film.
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(Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.)
Say what ?
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The marketing sells the movie, the awards comes later to reward the best in movies.
Are you saying movie studios go on producing movie that they predict will flop, and then planned to work together to create award shows ? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
and this movie has been loved by viewers and the media, why would it need saving ?
-It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything-
You sound so confused. lol
In spite of the main cast's fanbase (myself included in that) this movie would have made no impact at all. The award nominations are what brought this film to everyone's attention. The Awards Shows publicized this movie way more than the trailer did. We were told it was great. We were led like sheep.
This film has been getting solid, positive buzz since Sundance. It was one of the most highly anticipated films of the YEAR. And it delivered in spades! Get over it...
shareI believe the hype. Hollywood always needs a comeback story and this is that film. The one that tells the truth. The audition, the music, the casting, the production design, the shooting and the editing is all good. If the public was able to vote it would be hidden figures or fences or arrival
shareThe hating on this film is getting ridiculous. My group of friends were excited for this movie WAY before it got nominated for any awards, specially because it was coming from the director of Whiplash.
I honestly believe it's just a matter of time till internet settles down and admits this is a great film. The boards are going to die anyway.
I loved the movie, except for one thing, Mia/Emma Stone. I just finished watching it, and every time Mia/Emma Stone gets turned down for a role, I'm thinking to myself, I don't blame them for turning Mia down, and wondering why Emma Stone was cast in this movie. Did they do it because she's playing the part of a young woman who can't act, and Emma Stone fit into that slot so perfectly? Because imho she really is not a good actress. Good movie, but I would have enjoyed it so much more if the person playing Mia were someone who could actually act.
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Aardvark ScarsGard?
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Tom Hanks!
that'd b so so so hawt
Gosling & Hanks
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der hund verzehrt mein kind
I think she was cast in the movie because she is supposed to be, "like" an every-girl who movies to LA to attempts to work in acting and end up working at Starbucks for a period of time.
Spoilers:
We are missing 5 years of time here from when she gets her big break in the Paris movie which she was cast for and when she has the interior decorated LA Home with a serious nanny watching her child.
Just guessing but I imagine her Paris film became a hit and she landed a 3 film contract. Further guessing she also decided that a credible resume enhancing acting class would pay off.
On the road to their evening out, Mia and Tom(?) mention their scheduled trip to New York the next day. I think Mia mentioned a career activity she needed to attend
"Everything is like a lie.."
Well I can see that. .... Sebastian has to hide the truth from his bosses that he's working for when his real goal is to promote Jazz music by opening his own Jazz club.
He has to lie to JK Simons character Bill the dinner club manager who hired him to play during Christmas.
He has to lie to Keith his old musical friend who is paying him $1000/week to be a keyboardist in his band. I noticed that the black tuxedo and white hat combination Sebastian whore to the band photo-shoot made him nearly impossible to photograph.
Sebastian also lied to Mia about where his car was at the party in the Hollywood Hills. Remember, Mia asked him to get her car keys when she was talking to the fledgling screen writer?
I have visited LA several times and I like this movie. Saw it last week in the theater. You could say that this movie lives up to the stereotype of LA Life, hence the title http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3783958/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt ....LA LA Land.
Someone on these boards suggested Ghost World last week. I ordered it on Amazon DVD and I liked it too. Very different films set in LA.
Here on IMDB I saw that Ghost World's wide US film release was dated 10 days after Sept 11th.
Rigel1337, I think the biggest lie is the one he tells Mia at that fateful surprise dinner, because on it turns the fate of their relationship.
Seb makes a unilateral decision to make the band a more or less permanent gig, taking him out of town for at least two years with only sporadic visits home, and admits he's quit on his dream. He lies that it doesn't matter, that this is what he really wants to do. That's no good, but the worst lie is when he next says "I thought that's what you wanted." That single self-justifying lie frames Mia as responsible for his quitting on his dream and on their relationship, since it will be a long-distance one.
There are two related ironies:
The first is that Seb was already prepared to do what Mia ends up doing by mutual agreement - except not for his career dream but for a self-deception that served to rationalize abandoning that dream. Cynicism and insecurity got the better of him, but he couldn't admit that, so he made up a lie, making it out to be Mia's responsibility. That's quite a crafty lie, because it makes his quitting on himself, and effectively on their relationship, actually look like a noble sacrifice for the woman he loves.
The second irony is that he then goes to battle against Mia's cynicism and insecurity after her play flops and he fails to show. This is where I think he makes a noble sacrifice, because he does not quit on Mia, even though she has said "It's over," of course not meaning only her career dream. He does not just leave it to fate to decide if the casting agent manages to make contact with her. He gets in his car and drives to Colorado, not to fight for Mia's love but for her artistic dream.
I think in the aftermath of the corrosive effect of his own cynicism and insecurity that he could not live with himself if he didn't do all he could to revitalize Mia's nerve when opportunity came knocking. Having broken faith with himself, and with her, he was not going to let Mia's faith in her dream break too.
Note that all of this was precipitated by Seb noticing the stain spreading out of the corner of the ceiling of Mia's bedroom, and watching her brush her teeth in the bathroom, which motivated him to sign up with the group.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
The movie was hyped too much. I saw it it was so disappointed. Oh well.
shareThis movie had some good points but was definitely not great, and did not rate the incredible hype it received. It is regarded as outstanding, most likely, by people who are not familiar with the film musicals of the 1930s through 1950s. La La Land will not be well-remembered sixty to eighty years after its creation, as so many of those classic musicals are.
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