John Hancock portrayal


What do you think about the way John Hancock is being portrayed? I don't know anything about the historical view of his personality but this interpretation makes me curious. He seems socially odd to me. Any thoughts?

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I know of the actor, Rafe Spall who is funny in Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz, but his approach to Hancock is the same - being aloof, an oddball, and sarcastic. But it isn't working here...


Not really liking what he is doing with this one....But then again, I'm not really enjoying the direction of the last night's premiere....



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Wasn't he a hotshot banker in real life?

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no. I was wrong.

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He's coming across rather effeminate, dare I say gay?

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He's coming across rather effeminate, dare I say gay?

I wouldn't use either of those terms, although I could see how some might. He strikes me more as someone who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth who never had to toil, never knew hardship, and in general had a pretty easy life; at least relative to the time period.

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I agree. He acts effeminate.

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Hancock was a wealthy and dashing New Englander of prominence who used his money to help fund the Revolution, at considerable personal risk. A Harvard grad, he was also politically active and very popular with the common folks. Much has been made of him being a smuggler as well, and while technically correct, at the time it was a common practice with no stigma attached.

Yes I'm somewhat disappointed and puzzled by this performance.

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I mentioned this on another post so I'm sorry but does anyone notice any similarities between his portrayal and that of Mozart in Amadeus? Just his mannerisms and social awkwardness...

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YES!! I thought that from the first moment he appeared!

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Thank you! I thought I was going crazy. lol

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Not crazy... I actually looked him up to see if it WAS Tom Hulce lol.
They both have those slightly flamboyant gestures and mannerisms.

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Thank you! I thought it was just me.

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Omg me too!!!!

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badwithsports, my husband and I looked at each other when we saw Rafe Spall in "Sons" and said, that's Mozart! My husband thought it was him but I told him Amadeus was made 30 years ago! I really loved Rafe Spall's portrayal of John Hancock.

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Halle-freakin-lujah. YES, I thought of Amadeus from the first sentence out of Hancock's mouth! I would love someone to do a side by side video of these 2 guys. Thought I was losing my mind...

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Side by Side =)

These 2 could be brothers, twins even (fraternal =)

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Cool! They even LOOK alike! Now if only someone would do a video of a clip of Amadeus with a clip of Hancock...

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Took me a few minutes to figure out who he reminded me of... That's it exactly!

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Wow, you are right! I hadn't thought of it but the similarities are striking.

Anyway, I don't think it's all that historically accurate in terms of his personality.....but then this show took a lot of liberties (sorry) with that. I mean, it's Braveheart-levels of unsubtle in it's sentiments. But taking it for what it is I totally enjoyed it.

Sam Adams is the irresistibly roguish firebrand, Gauge is the chilly, sadistic, disdainful British bastard, and Hancock is the mild-mannered, slightly effete, house-proud reluctant rebel.

It worked for me because I really liked the contrast with Adams and how their partnership grew. Hancock wasn't so much cowardly as cautious....he didn't want things to change because he had everything to lose. Then he lost his wealth and his innocence and knew what he had to do. It was a nice bromance and very amusing to watch at times. The show needed a little humor.

I actually found his performance very engaging and poignant. It might not have been historically accurate, but it was enjoyable.

BTW did Joseph Warren really bang Gauge's wife?!

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In the show, he's a dandy. He's starting out as an out-of-touch rich guy, looking out for his own financial interests. He comes around to supporting the cause of liberty for the right reasons. Obviously it's a bit over the top.

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Do you really think that's all that over the top? Don't you wonder how many of our founding fathers were just humming along minding their own business until things just got so bad they had to take action?

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Rafe probably played his character most like someone from that time, so the performance seems strange.

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No, I don't like it. He is trying to do what he does in everything else he is in and it's just out of place here in my opinion.


I do agree about the Mozart comment - spot on! But again, wrong here...so so wrong.


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Personally I found Hancock to be one of the more realistic, likable characters in this miniseries. I'm sure this portrayal wasn't even close to the real John Hancock (just as the other characters weren't true-to-life, either, I'm sure), but I found him very entertaining and I think the actor did a great job.

As to the assertion that he seemed 'effeminate,' let's not forget that he was portraying a man who had been used to privilege and wealth all his life, and had not been expected to lift a finger for anything. That's how I see the character anyway. YMMV.

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Don't get me wrong, I do like the actor very much. But it seems most audiences on here like his portrayal so hey, that's all that matters! As long as other people like it.

And very true about the "effeminate" aspect Slackersmom!


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I found him to be the most likable character on the show. And his quirkiness adds to the likability. I found it rather refreshing and lightens the mood a bit.

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Loved it, love what Rafe Spall did with the portrayal. Found him eminently watchable. I say that having seen him in nothing else, nor having seen video of John Hancock himself (that's a joke; don't get your undergarments in an uproar).

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