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Copping On Kubrick, Or Waters...?


I haven't seen this movie, but was really impressed with Irreversible. And I mentioned elsewhere that it was amazing that only after 3 years after Kubrick had to block images of any oral sex in Eyes Wide Shut, Gaspar gets away with Irreversible. I'm not sure if it's somewhat fact or fiction, but rumor has it that Terry Southern and Stanley Kubrick joked about making a 'big budget porno film, if the world doesn't blow itself up beforehand...' And/or when Kubrick signed on with Warner Bros. he was handed Le Traumnovelle and a very low starting budget, and had considered going well beyond the boundaries encountered during Lolita (Which A Clockwork Orange certainly did 100 times over.) Then comes (pardon the pun) Deep Throat and Pink Flamingos, and become instant classics among people and critics that were noted and successful. I think John Waters would be the first to say the fun wasn't in how gross to make Pink Flamingos as a movie, or watching Divine eat dog *beep* It was the fact that people went out of their way to see it. And/or they and critics LOVED to HATE it. So now, 40 years later, The Notorious N.O.E. gets acclaim for Irreversible, and the controversy surrounding it. Does another movie that earns him respect as a credible film maker, and lord knows - could be getting offers to do the next Batman or Alien or Transformers re-hash. So why not do now what was so long to be rumored, joked about, or cited as by so many prudes over the years - make a high cost porno film called 'Love' that the Jones and Smiths will come out to see with a upper crust perverse sense of 'art', and give them a straight up 2 hour 3 way? And not having seen the movie, but seeing all the talk here - it makes me laugh, and maybe Noe as well? Same with Eyes Wide Shut - which I think Cruise, and Kubrick simply went too easy on and/or got too pretentious about. But SO MANY were let down not so much by the story - which actually isn't that bad. But that there was hardly any SEX in it! And it's hilarious to me now that here comes a movie called 'Love', and everyone complaining 'there's too much SEX in it, and it's boring!' Maybe it should be on a double bill with Spike Jonzes 'Her'? It's truly amazing to think we used to have something to say about movies that may pervert us, turn us into blood thirsty murderers, and get kids to smoke and swear constantly. Now I think the movies are criticizing the viewers, and we're just getting too apathetic to see it? Someone other than me has to be laughing at this....?

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